Pvp literally requires you to play against other human players. Pve has lots of stuff you can do with just a few people or solo. Your argument sucks and the two aren’t connected.
I mean LFG is the same thing.
I farmed heroic++ on my boomie, I bought the neck and nebula, that was like 40 heroic++.
I made no friends, I had no meaningful conversations, I sat in dalaran and messaged group leaders 5300 Boomie over and over.
You would have an argument of the current system was better or did what you guys think it does, however it doesn’t.
All it does by not having red is ruin old world leveling.
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OK, so it should be in your interest that RDF gets added so you get rid of us all, shouldn’t it?
/who dalaran, too many for the tool to count
Yeah, as if it isn’t already.
OK, but that doesn’t mean it has to put you into a group with random players does it? You could just premade it, like we did back in my day.
Oh, I’m sorry, is that too inconvenient for you?
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Inb4 all the sub 4k players list and que and you get wasted groups regularly. Arguing for RDF for lockout content. Come on drink you are better than that. You farmed out 40 plus heroics at endgame where the majority of players are. RDF not needed. Sure I’ll give you leveling dungeons could help but most people are playing endgame on 5 alts as is.
Sub 4k for normal heroics? Are you on the same planet as the rest of us?
The ToC 5 man and ICC 5 man dungeons already had ilvl requirements to join in the very first iteration of RDF ever implemented in the game.
You’re crying about stuff that’d never happen cause it couldn’t happen.
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Um pvp always has had a grouping tool except maybe first patch or to of vanilla. And no just because it would be nice to not read your thousand posts about RDF I see no reason to reward spoiled children lol. Wait so game is dead because no RDF… But then to many people in dalaran for the tool to even count huh? Which is it. Dalaran main hub city and most people hearth destination. In between dungeons you go there. Waiting for raid you go there. Ah shopping profession training you go there. Pvp in dal sewers. Gem vendors. Gear vendors. All in dal. Your a scrub always will be.
You’d just ree that no one is running regular heroics so you can’t get il to que for betas. Don’t lie bud. Your trash always will be.
Battlegrounds had, pvp no.
And what is your point? You’re still grouping with complete strangers, cross realm, that you’ll never meet again, for something that is arguably more team focused.
According to you, adding RDF would literally make everyone who wants RDF quit anyway, so it would be a net zero for you.
So why oppose it?
Where did I say this?
Lmao.
The 3 duels a day, hooray.
So again, just stupid assumptions about things that literally cannot happen.
Cause you don’t actually have an argument, you’re just parrotting talking points you’ve heard someone else say and it’s so blatantly obvious cause you’re 100% ignorant of how things happened in the original game.
Such as not knowing RDF came with an ilvl requirement. Jeez.
OK, I’m trash and I don’t care.
You’re arguing with trash and losing.
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I agree that heroic++ doesn’t need rdf, I think almost everyone would agree with that.
But don’t sit here and try to claim heroic++ is social because it’s not.
No matter how you get to the heroic++ dungeon, if people don’t want to talk they aren’t.
I think almost all pro rdf players are specifically asking for it to be for leveling dungeons.
Even rdf in retail is only leveling dungeons.
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Screw that, add an ilvl requirement to 'em, lie in the filthy bed they’ve made for themselves.
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I mean that’s fine that’s how it is on retail anyway.
Generally the guy spouting off a out how he’s winning an argument or smarter than everyone else, is wrong. Battlegrounds are pvp … Your the one comparing dual spec to merc mode lol. The net loss is people like you getting your way and becoming even more spoiled and trashy. You spend allllllll day on here. Never go more than 5 minutes without a reply. You spout off about how you know what happened in original wow yet you still crying for RDF. Seen the type of people that bred. Join a group all they say is 123. Lol that jeynar he’s mad he has to form his own group and type 123. Your winning but last I checked you still don’t have RDF. So yeah… Lol. Keep hiding on your lowbie sock puppet dreaming of RDF.
I never said it was social lol. That dude said RDF was best social tool. I’m just pointing out it’s anti social more than it is social.
Perhaps, but that’s the thing about generalizations. They’re generalizations, not universal.
Exactly where have I done this?
Besides, yanno, the very obvious one.
They’re both quality of life features.
Are 2 monitors and the notification system on these forums still a mystery to you?
Yep.
I’ve been the second person at the summoning stone once in all my dailies and raids, otherwise I’m there as the first.
Assumptions again.
I’ve never once said “123” in chat.
I’m still not paying for a sub to post on these forums, feel free to come say hi on the EU forums where I post on the same name.
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And what is the point of this statement if the current situation is no better?
All the negatives with none of the upsides?
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I think both tools are equally social in what they can provide it’s up to the players to decide if they want to participate in socializing.
However you get to the dungeon doesn’t matter.
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RDF is just as social as LFG, the only difference is one is a choice to be social while the other one forces you to be “social” (for as social as “inv [spec]” and “thanks for the group” are)
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Do you really wonder this? The name alone tells you how they’re different. One if for dungeons and the other is for PVP. Is this something you missed when typing your reply?
Nope. You’ve read wrong again. I’m saying it’s different because it’s a different system be that does different things.
Because dual spec allows you to have a second talent specialization. Whereas RDF allows you to automate the process of finding a dungeon group. Do you not see how these are two different things?
You don’t seem to know what semantics means. Is this just a word you throw out when you don’t actually know how to engage?
Because merc mode is for PVP and it doesn’t place you in an algorithm that automates the process of finding a dungeon group for you. I’m not sure how you think they’re similar? Is it because they’re both features in WoW Classic? Is this the only point of similarity you’re working with?
I don’t think that’s correct.
Opinion.
Has no merits.
Fact is rdf would increase low level dungeon participation.
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it wasnt a problem before it was added.