RDF is the best social aspect ever added into the game. Sorry but without RDF it’s just too hard to meet people to play with or get content done. This is why players like myself quit and have skipped WotLK.
It’s just such an amazing feature that allows you to play and enjoy the game. It’s really hard to play Wotlk without RDF and why I’ve skipped most of this expansion. It’s just not WotLK without RDF. It’s just a MISERABLE experience for me. I just got a 1 month sub to try it again but I just wish we had RDF so I can enjoy the game.
I just don’t get why they want to destroy WotLK Classic and drive players away from the wonderful experience we could have. I would of never quit if we had RDF. It’s just crazy we still don’t have it and I’m super annoyed about it. I was really looking forward to WotLK and we still haven’t gotten WotLK yet.
One issue is people just inviting people to groups without actually looking into what they are listed for. A group I just left is still there looking to fill a dps spot (2 dps left) for 20 minutes.
If someone lists themselves for X and Y dungeon dont invite them to do dungeon R. I didnt list myself to do the normal daily, just the heroic and ToC.
Even if I wanted to “just make your own group” there are no other people listed currently. What pool am I going to pull from?
Well I don’t look in there so no one? I’m need RDF to do dungeons. If it never happens I guess I’ll never do dungeons and probably won’t really play WotLK. I’ll never get to make the Alts I want or get the gear I want and it’s just sad.
This is why RDF was the best feature ever added into the game. It’s isn’t biased, it just allows you to play the game randomly with a group of people and meet players. This is why WotLK had a big sub surge to it’s highest peak when they released RDF. Players were finally able to do content and experience the game in a way never before without the pain points of trying to find groups with all these conditions.
Leaving out the best MMO feature ever created is just foolish and hurts Wrath in immeasurable ways.
I think that is one of the issues with the tool. In theory the design addresses it…if you assume everyone pays attention to detail which they don’t.
It shows you everyone who matches with any dungeon you listed, which in theory makes sense, but before I gave up and just started Raid Logging, I would not infrequently get people inviting for groups where they had listed ABC, and then inviting someone who had only listed B and another person who had only listed C to come run A.
Which again just leads us back to Blizzards failed promise to “keep working on the tool and making it better” which they haven’t done once outside of finally adding a separation of the various heroic forms that really should’ve been there from the very start.
It’s tough to say. Unfortunately there aren’t a lot of great arguments for RDF. That’s why we mostly see fallacies, unsubstantiated claims, and hyperbole. That’s the reason RDF hasn’t been added up to this point.
With that being said, ICC at least aligns with when RDF was actually in the game, so it could make an appearance due to that. We shall see. I do suspect it is likely for Classic Cata though, if that ever comes out.
The tool is worse now than it was. Whenever I enter into the group it sets me as tank… every single time. I dont have a tank spec as either of the specializations, I set myself as dps, the spec is set to damage and then people get confused.
You just talked about fallacies, unsubstantiated claims, and hyperbole… and the you try to give some claim about why they havent added it yet when you have absolutely nothing to back it up.
There have been countless great arguments FOR RDF. There hasnt been any good ones or mediocre ones against RDF. Just some people saying “muh social experience” and other saying everyone will turn toxic and people will just ninja everything. Some even said that they themselves would go in there and just cause chaos who are anti-RDF.
This also isnt the precedent that Blizzard has set with systems. Dual spec was out at Ulduar but released at launch in Wrath Classic, there were some things that didnt exist at all either like Titan Rune difficulties, merc mode for bg’s and some other stuff.
We all know you are anti-RDF and a troll and you constantly look for new people on the forums that you can poke at.
If by nothing you mean two years worth of evidence, then yes, you are correct.
Different systems are different and should be treated differently.
Is not RDF.
Irrelevant.
Is not RDF.
This is a good example of a fallacy. You are treating every system as if it’s the same and should be treated the same. The reality that you are refusing is that these systems are different. RDF is not merc mode. And it isn’t Dual spec either. It should not be treated the same.
Treating an orange the same with you treat an apple doesn’t work.
Really? So its not because they are stubborn? It has to be no good arguments for it, and not them making a bad choice and not having a way to save face until ICC? They didnt even admit that taking flying away in WoD was a bad idea.
No they shouldnt.
Its still a system that wasnt released until Ulduar.
No its not. Its something that didnt exist that split the playerbase not just once but twice.
Its still a system and not only that but it didnt exist in Wrath AT ALL.
Thats what you are doing.
Im treating systems as systems. Why is RDF the ONLY system that is outside of the precedent set by Blizzard?
This is irrelevant. 100% irrelevant.
But they are both systems that improve the quality of life of the playerbase.
And they are all still systems that improve the quality of life of the playerbase.
Yes they should.
What do you mean? You dont eat an orange but you eat an apple? You treat them both the same, as food.
You’re demonstrating my point pretty perfectly here. You are lumping in a system that has never existed with other systems that have existed but just came early. You are conflating your own argument because you are treating every system that has ever existed the same.
Elaborate.
Without acknowledging that they’re all different systems. You’re failing to understand the nuance between them.
That’s a conversation we can have if you are willing to accept it’s different than the other systems Blizzard has created. So far, you are unwilling to do that. You believe that RDF = Merc mode = Titan runes = Dual spec.
You eat them differently Kelliste. Apples are typically eaten with the skin still attached, they are baked in pies, they are covered in chocolate, etc. This is the issue – your comparisons are surface level and don’t actually address the nuanced differences of things.
That’s a conversation we can have as soon as people accept that it is different. So far, I have pro RDF arguing that RDF = Merc mode = dual spec = titan runes.
But we can start with the fact that RDF is different because it’s a different system unlike any other system we’ve seen.
You really should read things fully before replying:
Your reading comprehension is lacking here. It’s different from other systems because it fundamentally does different things than other systems. And it accomplishes those different things via different methods.
Dual spec allows you to have a second talent specialization. Whereas RDF allows you to automate the process of finding a dungeon group. Do we really need to go over this for every system WoW offers? Is this something you are not aware of?
I literally listed several of them above. RDF is the best social feature ever added to WoW or ANY MMO of all time. It finally allowed everyone to experience content and meet new people without any restrictions. The game is miserable without it. This isn’t WotLK Classic till RDF is added. Not having RDF has kept me away most of this expansion so far and it makes no sense to leave out the best feature of WoW and Wrath.
