Mirrors are like kryptonite to these people. How dare you point out something that’s obvious to everyone outside of their echo chamber!
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Who is upset?
And you can continue to dodge, but telling people what they are thinking and what is motivating them isn’t some innocent adult way to discuss an issue. It’s appropriate that your avatar is a troll.
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It’s interesting that you believe anyone is affected by any of these disagreements. There is a little cadre of about 6 people who are just so angry about sync queueing and they regurgitate the same lines over and over again. I don’t see that anyone has been convinced about anything other than the need to employ the ignore list to stop wasting time.
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Some of you are unhinged.
Jesus
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Nobody is trying to convince anyone of anything. People are expressing their frustrations with a broken system, and those abusing it are trying their hardest to gaslight and dismiss them in an attempt to control the narrative. It’s not working.
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Not all of them are “abusing” it though. Some are just dealing with the hand that has been given for now and going after (or trying to) go after the people who are abusing it.
I used to paint them all with the broad brush to but at least for some of them it’s not true.
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I have no idea what I’m supposed to be dodging? I don’t know what you’re talking about.
I know you’d like to think that BSG is somehow exempt from these criticisms just because they’re the ‘best’ of these pug farm groups. The second a group comes along and consistently beats them, they’ll employ the same sorry justifications that these other groups use to avoid losing.
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What are you doing that’s working? I’m confused. You seem to keep saying the same lines over and over again with nothing changing. Your occasional claims of victory are amusing.
The thing with you 6 people who make endless posts crying about queue syncing is that none of you can separate emotion from the ideas being discussed. To be sure, many on the other side are the same. But when someone wants to have an actual discussion with any of the 6 of you, you are simply incapable of doing it.
The other thing the 6 of you do endlessly is pretend to know other people’s thoughts and motivations. That kind of pretending is not how intellectually sophisticated people discuss issues because it’s inherently a clown-show of unprovable conjectures.
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This hasn’t happened in good faith yet. If it had, we’d be addressing the actual problem with queue syncing rather than deflecting and dismissing valid concerns.
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Thanks for saying that. I love that about TFS
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You know it’s good faith when they have to find out the honor level of the person they’re discussing it with
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That’s not true. I’ve always been glad to discuss. Then the 6 shrill voices start screaming the same lines over and over again. And then they keep pretending to know what everyone else is thinking. If your little cadre really wants a discussion, you’ll stop doing that.
I think the current system is stupid.
edit: whether or not it is conscious, based on the way you interact I believe you define “good faith” as agreeing with you
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I have no interest in convincing or discussing anything with anyone exploiting the current broken system. Believe whatever you want, I don’t care. Blizzard is the only voice that matters in this situation, and I will continue to advocate for change, while highlighting the hypocrisy and inconsistencies of those defending it.
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If you cheat because other people cheat you are no better than the original cheaters, you are just adding to the problem.
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Says the small echo chamber screaming the same lies over and over… you have even gone and blocked those that have proven you wrong. You are a hypocrite and a coward.
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@Celinthia and @Neckros are the only 2 that are sticking to the topic. This thread is not a witch hunt but more than that; this thread is NOT A JUSTIFICATION FOR CHEATING - TO OVERCOME CHEATERS.
*This thread is and always has been about solving a problem of Que abuse exploitation for unfair one sided unbalanced games *.
(random BG means both teams mostly random , never was random BG labels as: ONE TEAM gets to pick all their players and sit in a voice chat and the other are all randoms and solos expecting a fair fight but not receiving one, on infinite loop).
If the discussion continues to disseminate I will close the topic forum.
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It all goes back to the end of my very first post in this thread… “Infinite Monkey Theorem squared, to the power of the number of stars in the universe, multiplied by the number of times Elon Musk tweets in a day. 1 in that number, (infinity); are the chances of the premades all just disbanding on their own. — “Yea, you first” <<<<< That’s the heart & crux of it. Blizzard has created such a problem by ignoring it, that even if 80% of the groups disbanded, there’d be 20% that wouldn’t and they’d still be rolling the 300 players that were now queing solo or in 5 mans trying to do the right thing. These players trying to do the right thing would just group right back up after being rolled by those that refused to go along with “the plan”. The only people that can resolve the issue are right now, designing new ridiculous puffy, pirate shirts for next month’s trading-post-comedy-transmog show.
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And that’s the whole reason punishment needs to happen. You and everyone else that has abused the exploit needs to be removed from the game permanently.
Blizzard’s not removing me bro… I get rolled by premades 5 - 10 times a day solo queing epics and they’ll see that plain as day. And they’re smart enough to know that this problem is their fault.