TLDR; it’s disgusting , no need to say it, we all know it we all see it. If you have an active subscription you have seen it and said “WOW, how much more insane can I get and keep paying for a subscription to a game developer that let some turbo nerds yelling over each other in discord so only 1 or 4 of them talk in 15 mans and 40 mans”. How disgusting it is that they rule the roost of your product. You just let them put your product in the garbage. There’s other MMO’s i come back to wow because its simple and nostalgic. I feel a clown for paying 15$ for this month. You can’t be a non abusing player and que for a BG without getting in progress 200-500 points behind. That was my experience of 8 hours today. Blizzard I’m beyond disappointed no politics involved when I say this. Who’s going to make WOW great again? It’s a disgusting Nerd Core discord mafia run swamp. I said what I had to say. If you clicked battle grounds forums, you’re either already thinking of quitting, but don’t want to and want answers from the developers. Or your part of the problem to destroy the game. What happens when you play without your cheat macro abuse group? You’ve destroyed it for yourself to, I can’t even believe this is what happened in a 2month break from the game. Blizzard I’ve played since I got wrath for Christmas when I was 13yo or something. What happened you guys? Did Blizzard or Microsoft Quit? It seems like it. Do something, I’d do it fast, or none of us are going to have a world of warcraft left to come back to when you declare this is the last trilogy of expacs. I wouldn’t expect you to make it to the last titan at this right to be honest, if this keeps up like this, why should you bother? I’m not going to bother. I said what we’re all thinking in one way or another. WAKE UP blizzard. These people can’t police themselves and your game made it possible so make it impossible for that to happen, Making a new algorithm if you don’t want to pay someone to do it, if cash is that tight, have an AI make an algorithm to stop BG abuse. At this point just start throwing stuff at the wall and see what sticks. It does not look very salvageable for the foreseeable future. Dude I don’t even know if I trust to say, " well give you another shot with “Midnight” Because you’ve just about lost the trust of any decent actual players not involved in gold selling exploits botting. Why do I call all that disgusting? It’s against your T.O.S (Random BG is supposed to be RANDOM [Not even rated dude]). Why should I or anyone trust you guys after this, from what I hear it’s been about 2 months of a single macro to destroy what was left of your decent conscionable players. R.I.P random battle grounds; Macros, Ques, Discord, Red Bull , exploits, and TOS violations took good old random Bg out while we were away. RIP random Bg, we will miss you.
Forum Topic is an Epitaph for Random Battle Grounds.
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Honestly I get why you’re upset. At least you’re attacking blizz where the blame belongs. If they don’t care about proper matchmaking they don’t care about you.
If you choose to continue to pay a sub, the only thing you can do is try to adapt. Join a premade/community yourself, or if you don’t want to because you think it allows you to claim a ‘moral high ground’ then accept that when you queue it’s just a roll of the dice. The remaining choice is simply to not play.
The problem few talk about is the continuing and increasing incompetence of random players in random, unrated BGs. That won’t be solved by premades magically disappearing.
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At this point there’s soooo many premades, the people in them probably represent 60 - 70%+ of the players still playing pvp and running epics (thats why almost every single epic game is now a premade encounter or two premades facing each other during peak hours. There’s got to be like…. 10 - 12 groups at least. Some are even PVE guys that play strategy over PVP blunt force, they’re not skilled at PVP fighting per se, but they’re always in the right place at the right time with tight communication and killer raid healers. Some are groups of friends that have banded together to take on the premades so they don’t get rolled during peak hours and then inevitably, they become a “premade” themselves (to see what they see, as protecting themselves from other premades) and there ya go, it’s inevitable and the circle never ends.
The 30% still running around complaining about it haven’t caught on to this yet, that they’re probably not the majority at this point. But you’re absolutely correct… It’s 100% Blizzard’s fault… There’s so many premades now, that no premades are going to just go back to rolling solo because they don’t want to go back to being rolled all day by the other premades that didn’t voluntarily disband. I mean this late in the game, at this point? If you’re queing epics and you’re not in some kind of premade, you need to get in one. Thats how much things have changed since about, I’d say October. Premade #’s at max level now. The premades will never voluntarily disband; you’re looking at, – Infinite Monkey Theorem squared, to the power of the number of stars in the universe, multiplied by the number of times Elon Musk tweets in a day. 1 in that number; are the chances of the premades all just disbanding on their own. — “Yea, you first” etc
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I used to play a lot of epic bgs, but premades drove me out, not random players. Epic bg is a joke now.
I wouldn’t run premade because stomping pugs isn’t fun.
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you’ve been pvping for almost a whole year with that hl.
instead of fixing what you’re doing wrong you decide to blame players working together.
game needs less players like you.
“players working together” is what rated is for. You know damn well you’re trying to game the system for easy wins that you wouldn’t be getting otherwise 
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They have a 90% or better win rate in Epic bgs and are great at “working together,” yet most of their RBG/Blitz ratings are below 1600.
You can check their ratings, they’re actually not good at teamwork at all. On the contrary, they don’t know how to work as a team. They are bad in both rated and random bgs, which is why they resort to running premades.
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any excuse besides you being unable to adapt facing a team better prepared.
look in your bags right now i bet you’re out of gliders.
This premade yapping is becoming extremely annoying. Y’all need to understand 2 concepts.
1 concept: This is an MMORPG. To group together and play the game is a core feature of MMORPGS. y’all get pissy when people create groups to coordinate with is idiotic at best.
2 concept: I know/understand they’re exploiting the grouping process. I’m sure blizz is highly aware of it.
Understanding these 2 small concepts is what takes us to our question.
What will blizz do, if anything? What CAN they do? Punish people for playing the game with each other ?
It’s a windy road for them to fix.
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I’m just surprised anyone can tolerate doing it as long term content. ‘Yay time to queue into another group of disadvantaged players for an almost certain victory.’
Just sounds boring to me.
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If you’re queing epics and you’re not in some kind of premade, you need to get in one. Thats how much things have changed since about, I’d say October. Premade #’s at max level now. The premades will never voluntarily disband
Here is someone in a premade admitting the situation has gotten drastically worse since October. Blizzard absolutely needs to step in at this point. It’s just ridiculous .
You do not need to join a premade as a solo player to do well in EBGs. Stop falling for this recruitment garbage
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So its “my God! The premades must stop!”
then its – “you do not need to join a premade as a solo player to do well”
Yeah, both are true. My BG stats are public, and I’m completely fine with my W/L ratio. I think I do well. My argument has always been that premades take over at certain times of the day/week. If I run into a premade guild running EBGs – I just take a break and go do something else.
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Coming from someone who built their soapbox railing against sync queue premades only to join one, that’s rich. If you’re going to call out contradictions, maybe check the mirror first.
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No, thats just called having the wisdom to accept the fact that Blizzard won’t fix the situation and adapting. If it 996 A.D. and there’s 12 clans waring in my valley in Norway, I better get in one of them to have any chance of survival. It’s as simple as that. Standing in the forest alone with my little dagger refusing to join one of the clans while my family is going – “Are we going to be ok dad?” – probably isn’t the brightest idea. I held out until it was a premade, or premade vs premade every single epic game at peak hours…
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if it 996 A.D. and there’s 12 clans waring in my valley … “Are we going to be ok dad?”
This is a video game. This is the mentality of people in premade guilds. This is what we have to deal with
Talk to Blizzard bro, tell them what’s up and how you’re unhappy.
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I have. That’s kinda what these forums are for – not fantasy justifications for why people need to be carried in PvP
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Did Blizzard hit you back yet? Why are you crying to me about it?
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! That’s absolutely hilarious… So its – “My God!!! The premades must stop!!! Or I’m going to quit the game!!! I lose all day long!!! This game sucks!!! Epics are totally destroyed and not even worth playing!!! I’m pulling my hair out!!! I’m unsubbing!!!” literally 24/7/365
