This is so sad.
Just in case this is my Warrior with the Tusks. I am Meatbone the hunter who cannot get any damn loot to drop.
That is me with no dan drops.
We still have a couple people missing their last dom socket piece for their 3 set. Really drives home the fact that they both nerfed gear drops AND removed the extra way to get it. The lottery system from the weekly cache is a bit too random.
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You’re wearing 10 heroic SoD items, 2 normal SoD, items (for dom shards, and you have the set bonus and all 5 dom slots).
How is that “no loot”?
It kinda sucks to not get a weapon, but that is a far cry from “no loot.” Every other slot is either heroic raid, mythic+ equivalent, or normal domination slots. 12 of 14 possible slots equipped from raid drops.
Yea man same boat here. I’ve been AOTC and clearing both normal and heroic for months. Still o ly have a 226 Dom helm cuz sum 1 gave me it. Otherwise never had one drop for me. Also, every vault after first this season has had duplicate items and same slots every week. Rng been so bad I’m burned out. I cleared SOD so early and I’m still lacking pieces. Feels bad man. I been unlocking 9x vault slots a week and nothing to show for it.
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Dude seriously you really should stop commenting now.
I can’t take anything you say at this point seriously because you don’t even have 1/4 of the time invested into the raiding situation like myself and Meatbone have.
You obviously do not understand or even comprehend just what’s involved with the last 4 fights in SoD heroic, let alone the absolute atrocious mind frame you get put into wipe after wipe from stupid mistakes. The fact that the Sylvannas fight alone is 10 - 15 mins. To go through all of that with no reward hurts your mentality.
LFR does not count in this at all because the mechanics are dulled down to such a point they are not a 1 shot.
And yes, I believe his “no loot” issue because by now he should have upgraded the weapon at the very least. 11 weeks worth of investment on Heroic is justified if he has 10 equipped pieces and some, if not a majority, like myself, were hand outs.
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It’s just amazing reading about how players don’t get gear ever then you look at their armory and they are literally decked in raid gear.
I guess the definition of “don’t get gear” is really strange when it means get nearly all slots.
The handout argument is really strange too. If literally the same 4 items dropped but you got one from a masterlooter instead of a guildie trading would that then not be a handout?
Our 3 hour a week casual group will eventually get there in SoD. We took 146 pulls for heroic Sire so im pretty aware of wiping for ages on heroic content.
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The worst part is they keep changing the game to favor M+ even more. No more valor from LFR/LFD, you only get the currency we wanted from M+ and it only works in M+.
You can get it from callings, but it still only works for M+.
Torghast can’t drop gear, because then maybe people wouldn’t do M+…
At least raid has the loot box, but, man, I REALLY hate the weekly loot box. I’d rather have a weekly capped currency and a vendor that allowed me to target my upgrade over time.
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This.
I don’t think the vault is really working all that well. Raids never really needed a vault system.
At least a bonus roll would target only a bosses loot table (4 or 5 items) vs. the entire raid’s loot table via the vault. This is a giant leap in the wrong direction for raid gearing.
M+ which needed less RNG (since it pulls from an entire xpac dungeon loot table) is still way too much RNG. I’m sorry but clearing 10 dungeons to go from 1% drop chance to around a 4% drop chance hardly feels worthwhile.
*Note the numbers above reflect when you are targeting just a few items. Obviously the first few weeks of a patch when everything is an upgrade doesn’t really count.
A lot of people I know have expressed this concern with the GV concerning the loot tables and there is even a running joke on how many will claim Vendor gold at the weekly rollover. We have started targeting and skipping half the raid for the loot table that is specific for certain bosses.
Even that has not helped.
3 of our raiders have not received an upgrade from the GV in 4 - 6 weeks.
The most painful part of the process is 15 of our raiders need specific pieces off the last 4 bosses. 7 of those are weapons and domination set pieces.
It seems the loot tables are specifically centred around filler pieces that don’t make any difference, or pointless pieces that can be rolled on by any spec.
If there was a real way to target pieces that are needed, there would be a lot less anger / frustration
We had a massive thread about this in the beta forum and just how trivial the extra “chance” really is for M+.
We also discussed the downsides of the system quite extensively.
Yeah that definitely doesn’t work. We brought that up in the beta thread too.
I mean, I don’t think this is true. RNG is still RNG. However, pulling from an entire raid’s loot table is bound to suck most of the time.
There are 10 bosses in SoD each with between 3-4 items per spec (so let’s say 3.5…35 items total). So basically that’s a 1:35, 1:34, 1:33 chance of getting the item per vault slot.
The issue then is - that it is very easy to get everything you need from the early bosses vs. the later ones just naturally via drops and there is no way to remove bosses you don’t need from the loot pool.
So once you are at the last few items you are basically stuck at 9%- < 3% forever per vault slot (depending on how many items you need).
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Maybe not everyone looted the boss t hide their drops!
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That is definitely a possibility. Especially if someone didn’t want to share.
Perhaps someone was trying to finish their mog set.
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Shame we don’t get paid in tokens.
But that’d make too much sense.
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So update for this thread since posting it.
Have seen the same sets of bracers x 3, same set of gloves x 3 from both bosses and the great vault.
1 week I had the same bracers x 2 in the vault at the same time. 1 was mythic and the other was Heroic.
None of our tanks have seen the trinket off Guardian.
Only 1 of our plate wearers have seen the domination set shoulders from Soul render / Sylvannas OR the great vault since starting Heroic god only knows how long ago.
None of our plate wearers who need it have seen Jaithy’s any higher then normal item level.
And this has been since we started Heroic / Mythic.
We have raiders currently that have had enough of raiding due to the loot lag and getting hung up waiting for items.
The state of raiding is a F@&$ing joke. When you put the effort into doing content you should be rewarded ACCORDINGLY not punished.
Unfortunately the Devs do not listen to what the player base ACTUALLY wants to see fixed until things are too late like in current events that are going down
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We really need a PVP style vendor for PvE, no more RNG!
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THIS!! I’m sick of seeing PvP players complain as much as they do about gear even tho they have it easier to obtain what they need. The rest of us that do all the main content get spat on.
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Imagine raiding lol go do mythic plus, there’s literally no reason for to even raid anymore.
Yeh I’m currently not the only person who is starting to realise and feel this on point comment