What? Legion introduced both M+ and had 3 dungeons release mid expac
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Hear me out, three man mythic raiding, except there’s no boss, it’s three other players!
Okay, okay how about, five man mythic raiding except it’s a timed dungeon that requires routing, kick calling, cc and personal responsibility.
Sounds good to me!
All while hiding behind a classic alt.
The heck are you on about?
Yes. I too like keys.
Isnt it great to watch history repeat itself? SL will be Wildstar 2.0
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Not meaning to post so much in this thread but like…
BIG RIP to Wildstar. I adored that game but they struck an awful balance and drove most of their playerbase off. 
I miss my little hamster engineer and my alien Dragon-lady spellslinger.
And my brother’s robot named Terrorbyte.
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Big truths
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Thanks for the answer! I’m not a m+ person
That’s fine if the housing is as good.
Super same.
Except they didn’t make the claim that subs were dropping, it’s at the person who makes the claims to carry the burden of proof. Logic obviously isn’t your strong suit.
Raid or die model? Who is forcing you to raid?
So you whine about not only M+ but you are a ripcorder? Well, what did I expected, whiners gotta whine.
Also that chest you don’t like allows you to get a full set of mythic raid gear by just doing M+. So what are you talking about? Are you just out of things to complain?
Are we playing the same game?
Why do you have to do it without raider io?
I think the thing you are struggling with is to find things to complain about. Is this the best you got?
What is this about?
But its not meaningless is it? It is acually the most meaningful than it eve was.
Sure mate. lets wait and see.
OP lost me at “Mythic+ has been harder than heroic raiding since it came out.”
Hmm…Earlier heroic bosses are not hard. Raid is progression. Few people do 15 key in first few weeks. Those who pug likely take months to reach at that point. By that time, they all have AOTC.
So basing your entire “design” philosophy on play-style of like 5000 players is just stupid. Then again, WoW is only falling…
because to beat a M+ all you need is throughput , the mechanics of a dungeon compared to a raid is laughable . Getting five players to do limited mechanics is so easy compared to getting 10-30 players to do multiple things beside dpsing or healing , where one mistake will wipe your raid .
Your typical high level M+ group all have high throughput . My guild was downing 15+s months before we got through H Nya. Same people were in both . The lowest couple of DPS in our raid team were doing 25% of the damage our highest were , with healers there was a 50% difference . This is typical of most Heroic raid guilds.
Ignore her, she’s the biggest blizzard shill on the WoW forums
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I’m in favor of this change to M+ and I want the ripcord pulled.
Well that is what killed vanilla, err sorry BC? err I mean to say wrath, no wait MIST! Wow died with Mist because we didn’t M+… no wait that can’t be right we had Dreanor which also didn’t ha-… Oh never-mind, I’ll never understand why wow doesn’t die we say it will.
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No idea what you’re on about
While I really enjoy raiding (I will raid even there’s no loot upgrade just for the lore), I find it challenging to have time to raid.
Many players including me have a real life and can’t spend 3 hours straight on game for raid. Even I had time one day, it may not fit in the guild schedule. And LFR takes forever to get in.
M+ is faster and more friendly in this sense.
I mean you could shut people up if you have evidence to disprove their claim. Also you could teach people things. Miss me with the logos what you took psych 1 in community college or sum schoolboy? Lmao