So people who dont play the end game content and want the end game rewards but dont do the content. You want a Participation trophy for sitting on the bench. Checks out self entitled kids.
PLEASE explain how they are “Discriminatory”
You dont do the end game content then want blizzard to give you everything without even attempting to play the game.
Absolutely unhinged, right?
These people are nuts…
They say we have wild takes when we just point out basic common sense logic. The guy said hes played since Vanilla but hasn’t done any raids? 20 years of just getting to max level and not doing the end game content? Thats when the game really starts.
I completely understand that someone may play this way, but wtf is this take of adding in “content” that requires zero brain cells, nor a pulse and you get GEAR FROM IT that’s mostly better than everything up to that point, and calling you a gatekeeper to want them to actually play the game that exists.
Medication… Can’t wait for Wafectus’ next unhinged take…
Normal mode is easily accessible especially when you get heroic loot from the previous tier.
Im not saying dont add LFR at all to the game im just saying it is NOT needed for cata.
Bring it back for MOP sure. Because people will need it for there legendary back. But other then that it is not needed. in cata.
No.
I want to access any raid I want with random members; even if they’re too hard and we can’t complete them…
Similar to how RDF allows anyone to access inferno or whatever you call the new +, and where you then throw people out because it was too hard for them.
I’m talking about the discriminatory way the queue systems are usually used. They invented RBGs but didn’t allow randoms to earn rating through random BGs, they took away skirmishes for no real good reason… I’m surprised they allowed all the + systems at all in RDF.
That don’t fly with your logic. If these raids are so hard that randoms are going to struggle with them, then they’re not handing anything out, are they?
Using Rated BGs as an example… Only rated BGs, which are auto-X-realm-queueless, provide ranking values. Random BGs, which are virtually the same as rated BGs, don’t provide any kind of ranking value. Why would that be?
I’m attempting to play the game by queueing up for the hardest raid possible. LFR isn’t allowing me to do that? Why?
If I can do Paletress on gamma, I can do other more difficult things… So can others that prefer to use the automated systems…
That’s what worries them the most.
Why can’t we compromise in vanilla era and just add it for MC? Ppl say MC can be done in greens and blues anyways; what’s the problem?
That is called a pug.
Yeah, if ordinary players (no offense) can actually do the content, maybe then the elitists aren’t quite so amazing. And then their world falls apart. 
There are manual pugs and automated pugs. I want an automated pug.
None taken. I do consider myself as such.
They are not hard. That’s the point, they’re mind-numbingly easy that you don’t even need to participate. Wtf are you on…
Note the name “rated” BGs.
For … rating.
With a TEAM…
…
Not sure how that’s discriminatory… If you aren’t good enough at pvp to get an RBG team together, that’s a YOU problem…
what…
Bro, let me let you in on a secret… Wow is an MMO, with people in it. If you can’t understand why the staple way of completing content in an MMO, is talking to other players and being part a “team”, you’re further behind than I imagined.
That’s not what LFR is… The raid is deliberately dumbed down. It’s an easier version on PURPOSE, you’re arguing for LFR but are asking for something else.
Most of what you say makes no sense.
Dragon Soul was the worst iteration of LFR, I would hope that it would be released in a better state without the free for all loot style it had initially.
Regardless it is likely coming in the DS patch or around that time since RDF did the same with a similar statement of “not adding it at this time…”
The world will still turn for those who dislike it, just as it did when RDF dropped as it should have in Wrath classic
It will also turn for the unhinged kids that can’t seem to do any raids ever since vanilla and need a queue system, because they’re afraid of talking to people in game. 
Wouldn’t know as this isn’t me. I raid already just fine. My playtime however isn’t spent trying to police what others do in game or tell them what they do or do not deserve. My ego is not that large.
I may not be the best but I have a guild to raid with, LFR would be nice for off weeks though. Either way the world will still turn.
I’m talking about the hardest difficulties here, Heroic, Mythic…
So I HAVE to join a team if I want to raid, arena, rated BG? That’s what I’m against.
If that’s going to be the case, then why have RDF, random BGs, any queue system, at all?
They’re all doing the same thing LFR does.
Why is that?
I’m arguing for the automated part of LFR, I’m not asking for content to be redesigned around it.
Let me queue in for mythic, through LFR, is what I’m asking for.
Yeah? Look who it is waiting to greet me with open arms into your raids.
Yet I distinctly recall some conversations between you and I where you distinctly tried to do that because you didn’t like my arguments, even joining that gaslighting rogue in your efforts to insult me… I could dig up those transcripts if you’d like.
If you want to embarrass yourself go ahead.
Never told you what you couldn’t do at all, mainly because whenever anyone asks you a question you respond with “That’s my business”.
I never policed you, only told you that you were not that great and that you don’t at all seem like a team player in an MMO. I have never been opposed to RDF or LFR systems.
Go ahead and pull whatever cards you want, I am entirely consistent.
Then play a different game… 
Who’s entitled?
LORDdd.
No they don’t, because they don’t give you an easier version of dungeons, all they really do is skip running/flying to the dungeon, if you had friends, you’d still use this as a 5stack. Bro this isn’t hard stuff to grasp.
No idea… Ask blizzard. Apparently crying skill-less children that think they deserve participation trophies in the form of gear better than everything before it.
There is no mythic.
Do you even know what game you’re playing?
Haha exposed.
Why? They opened the door with random BGs, then skirmishes, then RDF, to begin with.
Don’t take it up with me, take it up with the company that provided these things in the first place.
Of course they do. All those things I mentioned have a queueable version to them; What skimishes are to arena, what RDF and LFR are to Mythic, what random BGs are to rated BGs.
I’ve given the reason. They’re purposely herding casuals around like cattle.
Point remains the same. You can’t queue Mythic through LFR in retail. Not even Mythic dungeons in RDF. They’re purposely not allowing casuals to enter those through RDF; counterintuitive to what the + systems allow/ed in Wrath and Cata.
Did he now?
Watching two people who agree with each other argue is…interesting.
Oddly enough I do.
If randoms aren’t capable of downing a heroic raid, then they don’t deserve the gear; simple as that.
What they do deserve at least is access to those raids, however they want to group with; randomized auto system or guild or manual PuG.