I’ll take ‘I’ve never played this game Cata and beyond’ for $800, Alex.
All of you people saying you want LFR just remind me of all the people that are too lazy, or skill-less and can’t do the actual raids.
LFR becomes(feels) NECESSARY for people who are raiding to get an edge-up on gearing to help prog, the fact that most of you don’t recognize this, or remember it just tells me that you weren’t around for it during it’s first iteration - It’s GLARING.
Some of us came back to classic to experience the game in a state that didn’t go off the deep end with world quests and LFR, giving gear to people for the least skill and mundane tasks.
LFR is the epitome of lazy, useless and skill-less.
LFR has no purpose unless they take the gear from it and make it transmog ONLY.
I’d even go out on a limb and say it’s entitled to expect access to LFR because YOU don’t have time for real raids, which sounds like a YOU ONLY problem.
We dont see eye to eye on alot of things but i do agree with you on here. Why do people need Heroic raid loot from H+ dungeons if they are only going to do normal raids?
Rewarding people with loot they otherwise would not have gotten for doing sub par difficulty content while actually making it so that end game raids are not required to do anymore actually ruins the end game content. If people want this they should go play retail that is not how classic was. The devs need to stop adding retail to classic. Because some of the players who play for a few weeks then leave then come back at the new phase to play for a few weeks just to leave again.
I disagree with you on catch-up mechanics, as they help people move into the next tier from alts, to coming back from a break and you want to get into your guilds raid team, but LFR pushes it too far, by offering 4-set that not only catches up, but is BETTER in almost every single spec than Heroic Firelands tier moving into normal DS gearing. It’s ludicrous.
I think you did say this in another post, if I’m not mistaken, but we’re most likely going to get a Heroic Firelands vendor of some sort as well, which should NOT co-exist with LFR.
Yes i did say this and i agree if they want to add LFR then they shouldnt add H+ ive said it multiple times the ilvl from Heroic Firelands gear is higher then that of LFR.
Heroic Firelands drops 391 ilvl loot and 397 from Rag
LFR Drops 384 ilvl gear and 390 from Spine and Madness
This makes no sense, as all of these things you listed you can’t just AFK through and attain things for FREE. You have to work together in some way to get these things, LFR bosses require zero skill, zero mechanics and give loot people sure as hell don’t deserve.
Hell, if you do AFK, you have to pray to the afk gods that someone doesn’t notice and kick you out, and with how kick-happy people have always been in BGs and 5man LFD, it’s impossible.
Skirmishes… Lmao
Yup, and you’ll have people like me, with a brain stem that fucntions, telling you how entitled and stupid your “demands” are.
Why not just ask for a vendor with gear you can buy for GOLD, then?
Then you and your little “oh so busy” friends can buy some tokens and get some gear you can show each other in Orgrimmar, because lets be honest, you aren’t actually raiding.
“I demand you give me easy to access purples, because I pay monies too!”
Gtfo… What a loser sentiment.
This is why i say heroic raid loot should not be obtained from H+ dungeon currency give them the normal raid loot. Heroic raid loot is not needed to clear normal raid content. It helps yes but its not required.
It does help, and it does require WAYYYYY more coordination and attention to mechanics and otherwise just to attain these things on the vendor, it’s a SLOG to do the infernos, so it’s not like it’s being handed out, and is LEAGUES less ridiculous than LFR, you have to admit.
You convolute the concept of the automated queue system with level of difficulty.
What I’ve been proposing for years, is to not design difficulties specific to the automated queue system but allow the queue system to access any difficulty.
What an expert WoW player you are; a testament to your life skills and abilities.
The queue system and HOW gear is given to you through LFR are mutually exclusive.
Never said anything about the system itself.
I’ve only mentioned that LFR is snoozefest at best with it’s difficulty, I’ve seen WORLD QUESTS with more difficulty than LFR and WQs are dog**** skill level content.
Keep going though, your arguments are GOLD, saying things I never said and making arguments that have nothing to do with anything at all! GOLD STAR bud!
Now it’s gatekeeping that someone wouldn’t want you to have a raid mode that requires no skill, no paying attention AND you wouldn’t even have to visit your keyboard… and get AMAZING gear for entering said raid…
Sure buddy. Whatever security blanket you need.
Haven’t exaggerated once.
Tell me what I exaggerated, exactly?
You can literally do all of those things, 1/2 the raid in LFR can LITERALLY afk, and the other 1/2 can easily complete the raid without difficulty.
It’s amazing how upset the elitists get at the prospect of ‘scrubs’ actually being able to do some form of raids. I can’t imagine taking a video game so seriously. They must really have nothing going on in their lives if they get this worked up about not being able to feel quite so superior in a game.
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RBGs Skirms and Arena are discriminatory? That’s wild.
If time is your argument for the QUEUE system, I have no problem with random LFR queue being for the NORMAL RAID.
However… I have a feeling you don’t want this, you want your easy raid.
Mythic +… through LFR… WTF ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT.
GO take your meds.
Not upset, I like how that’s all you can muster when you can’t use logic or reason to defend yourselves.
Big yikes my dude.
Just personal attacks. Nice debate boys. Guess that’s a win. GL with LFR, we all know they’ll cater to you crying babies, they did it before, lets see if they’ve learned ANYTHING.
