Queue Sync Blitz!

Of course the well know sync queue cheater will claim it’s not happening.

This is what you sync queue people do all the time.

Kitanana doesn’t sync queue lol.

Yet is a defender of it.

Saw two people on my team had the same guild name(both were dps specs) in the starting room. We won but not by a bunch. It’s not enough info to claim q sync shinanagins.

“saw queue sync but it’s totally not queue sync”…

I wonder if they sync queued.

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i got into a blitz aginst a guildy once just conicidence n i won haha

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I have a few different people recorded on video that habitually AFKd out of matches or AFKd inside of a match (non participation) away from any objectives in Season 3. I’m talking the same people doing this three or four times in different matches, sometimes on my side and sometimes on the other side.

They did this in Season 3. I’ve seen them already in BGB a few times in Season 4.

i mean, you could try, but you are talking an hours long exercise in frustration just to get a few extra people into a partial pug match which will be another exercise in frustration. not really worth it.

you don’t have to sync to play with friends though, the pvp community as a whole is a small world, and its not difficult to run into people you know if everyone is queueing the same mode, which usually happens when there is an incentive such as a quest or vault.

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You’re talking about EBGs. Different matter.

It is not. RMT is against the ToS.

Yeah… they sell it to other players by buying WoW Tokens for game time/“Blizzard bucks” via the AH. That’s how the system works - a system Blizzard set up, mind you.

People still don’t know how to read. I see nothing has changed on these forums. Here, let me help you - the pertinent part is bolded and italicized for your convenience:

Did they actually AFK the round? Were you, perhaps, exaggerating? Was there a conversation leading up to it/following it to prove it - or could their cat have legitimately been on fire? :cat2: :fire:

All kidding aside, they can’t just action people without reasonable evidence supporting the claim. That would include things like chat logs (i.e.: indicating intent to sabotage gameplay), number of prior (reported) offences, severity of those (reported) offences, etc. People aren’t getting actioned because they got frustrated playing with you and walked away from the keyboard once. Now, if they do this regularly (as in “Across multiple games in a short period of time”), it can become actionable.

Yes - but, like I said above, they have to be doing it enough to indicate that it’s a regular, purposeful behaviour, and not just the result of mere frustration on occasion.

You don’t say?

I find it rather ironic how, when it’s convenient for you, you remember this fact, but deny it at other times - like when people doubt the prevalence of queue-syncing.

First of all, if you did that, it wouldn’t matter - that’s not enough to make a claim for sabotage.

Secondly, if you did report everyone who loses control of a node, you’d be liable to be “On the ropes” for that, yourself; you might not get actioned, but you could get flagged for spam and ignored.

Think of like… all of your future reports going directly into the trash can where they belong. :wastebasket:

Yes. It wasn’t permanent… at least not this time, but it won’t be getting any better if they keep it up.

The way the system works, they don’t need to hire a lot more GMs.

First reports for things like AFK are going to get logged and probably nothing more until a pattern can be established. Once a pattern starts to emerge, the data can be passed to a GM for human review. Nobody is getting actioned instantly because you claimed sabotage.

Other reportable things, like language, can be assessed immediately and programmatically - which is why they get actioned very fast.

If reports are coming in from accounts known for spam-reporting, they’ll be filtered out and disregarded.

Yeah… and they’re doing almost nothing for PVP in TWW outside of implementing rated BGBs - which is why they have a lot riding on it. If rated BGBs fails and they manage to drive away the last remaining PVP players, they might as well just remove PVP going forward.

They don’t really care about premades in EBGs. If they did, they’d have done something about it by now.

Part of the reason they don’t care, I suspect, is that the EBG premade communities - consisting of hundreds, if not thousands, of players - are single-handedly keeping the EBG game mode alive during a time when PVP in WoW is practically on life support.

Likewise, they know that the claim that the EBG premade communities are “Chasing people away from EBGs” (and/or PVP in general) isn’t quite true. A lot of the time, people who enjoy EBGs just wind up joining an EBG premade community - of which there are quite a few, mind you.

Finally, this idea of “Community” is something Blizzard doesn’t want to overly affect as well. As much as you, or anyone else, might not like EBG premade communities, they are communities, and they are fairly active to boot. Blizzard isn’t going to start banning whole communities, losing subscriptions in the hundreds and thousands simply because you solo-queued and had a bad time.

They do fairly regular ban-waves, actually. Where have you been?

I’m aware of this, myself. Only reason I mentioned such things is because that’s the sort of thing we hear from people on the forums as “Proof” of rampant queue-syncing premades in BGBs… you know, because they don’t have any solid proof.

Not saying it doesn’t happen (it can/does - as Oozo has shown in his research), but I’m quite confident that it’s not as prevalent as people claim. Typically, people cry about queue-syncing premades as an excuse for losing in much the same way that people claim boosters/win-traders (at 1600)/Pikaboo, etc., are why their SS rating is so low. It’s a classic psychological self-defence mechanism. “I don’t suck! The deck has been stacked against me!”

Will people try to game the rated BGB system in TWW? Yes. That’s a given. The thing is, they’re taking a chance doing so, because that would definitely be actionable, and quite possibly within the range of a perma-ban.

The other thing is, it probably won’t be easy to do come TWW. Between the number of players queueing for rated BGBs, the RNG teams, and a fully functioning MMR match-making, it just won’t be worth the effort and the risk - a point Zlyrax, “The dwagon,” has brought up previously. It is a good point, and one that I concur with.

Absolutely not. That duo-queue you despise so much serves a very real and quite necessary function, which has been explained multiple times on these forums.

You’re like the Alex Jones of the BG forums, and you’re peddling some “Gay Frogs” level nonsense. :rainbow_flag: :frog:

Being completely objective, ask yourself: “What does this prove?”

To me, it just looks like a lot of baseless suspicion and unproven/unprovable implicit assumptions about what Blizzard does/does not do.

There’s way too much tinfoil up in this thread.

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No offense man, but nobody’s going to make it more than about a third through that post.

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You’re probably right, but I’m not going to put in less effort responding simply because the majority of people can’t be bothered to do ~1 min. (give or take - I’m being generous here) of reading.

No people have just read this nonsense over and over again. You seem to only think with your emotions and sorry bud, most people aren’t going to listen when you do that. The majority of the player base is tired of the already dying game being made even worse but sad selfish players that don’t want to follow the rules. If you think that’s wrong, you are part of the problem.

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A knee-jerk 3-sentence response full of fallacies. Wonderful.

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Because it’s waaaay too long.

I wholeheartedly disagree.

Wait a minute, that came out wrong. That is not what she said!

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How is suspicion involved here? I have the matches fully recorded where people either AFK frequently or don’t participate (AFK somewhere on the map away from fights or objectives). My point was people do these things all of the time without getting reported or action taken against them.

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You underestimate how sad and pathetic Queue Syncers are

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Yes, they didn’t move. Or they stealthed in the starting area and didn’t move.

Yeah, they were upset in chat that they didn’t win a round yet and they were giving up.

All kidding aside, Blizzard doesn’t have enough GMs to review all these individual reports and verify them.

Source?

You’re welcome to think the state of epic bgs is fine during prime time. Other people can recognize the premade raids they’re facing and see all the games where their team starts half-empty.

That’s the point. You said:

It’s not obvious at all.

Source?

Oh, so they need to sabotage many times before anything might happen?

That’s great.

They’re driving other players away from PvP. You can see all the pugs leaving their matches. People would rather take the deserter debuff than stay in a game against a premade raid.

If premade raids are single-handedly keeping the epic bg game mode alive, it’s because they’ve driven away everyone else.

So, even though premade raids are circumventing restrictions and ruining epic bgs for everyone else, Blizzard won’t ban them because of money?