Some people have threatened in Raid Groups to weaponize the report system to get people banned if they engage in the practice of selling this mount. Due to it’s rarity, it’s really making for a toxic time when doing Beledar runs. Some people are saying it’s allowed under Blizzard’s rules.
Others claim the fact this mount can be traded across the various servers for gold or the like, a bug and one that it will get you banned for exploiting. I don’t know if that’s accurate either as I thought the mount was personal loot, and never have seen a Need Roll done on it.
I don’t care which side of the camp your on. Views on the ethicality of selling the mount, or personal feelings do not factor into my question. For the sake of wrapping this up neatly and having a go to answer, could a CM if it’s not too much trouble; clarify for us players if this practice is a case of working as intended, or if it’s a bug to be fixed and should be avoided?
I just would like to know a straight yes or no on if this is allowed or not.
Don’t think that you’ll get an answer for this. People can do whatever they want with the loot they receive. If it can be traded and they want to sell it, then they can. People can buy it or not, it is their choice.
This does not happen. Whether it is one report or dozens, if no rules were broken, then nothing will happen to the person being reported.
That was my initial thought too. Nonetheless, I saw a Dracthyr on your server a little bit ago. Won’t give his name, but he was flipping out and offering people 2000 gold a piece to report one of the people selling their Beledar Mount (maybe because they weren’t selling to him?) and calling the seller all sorts of crazy stuff like “scumbag advertiser”, and other things I can’t repeat on the forums.
That sort of response seemed a little over the top to me, and way too wrapped up in personal rage and emotion; but it also prompted me to come here before I considered buying the mount (as my luck on such low drops has always been crap), and see if the ever helpful and knowledgeable dynamic duo, IE: Vrakthris or Orlyia; could give up some info for us so we don’t do something wrong inadvertently.
Might also calm the nerves of many other players who wonder similarly.
I wish I could agree with you on this, but I’ve had to deal with this personally; and had it reversed back in the day. There is no perfect system, and because of that accidents and mislabelings do happen. I think it’d be fairer to say that it’s the very rare exception and not the norm however. Blizzard tends to get things right on this front.
I never said once that the scenario I dealt with was a result of mass reporting however.
I’ll leave it at that friend. Like humans, no system is perfect; because no creator save for the original ‘First One’, is.
If you can put the mount in the tradeable slots of the trade window and someone else deigns to put their gold in for it, then it’s completely allowed under blizzard’s rules.
Still, seller beware on the off chance the buyer’s using illicit gold to buy the mount off them…
Is illicit gold a different color? A different shape? Should all trade in WoW stop because the gold might be illicit?
We’re not talking about trading gold between game versions or a level one orc standing in Org, we’re talking about getting gold from someone level 70 to 80 in a zone from the new xpac.
eh its probably more a thing of people just wanting the spots to go to people hoping to get the mount for themselves rather than people hoping to just make some easy gold, which i understand to an extent. but at the end of the day stuff like that is part of what makes an mmo so im not gonna get mad over it in game either lol
This was not because of mass reporting. Mass reporting CAN NOT lead to an account action outside of a silence until a GM can investigate. There are times when a mistake can be made with regards to an account action, however that has NOTHING to do with some kind of fantasy mass reporting. This is NOT something that this forum tolerates, it is false, it has been said to be false by Blizzard a million times.
The item appears to be Bind on Pick Up, so I imagine it has the same trade rules as most items that drop while you are in a group, meaning you can trade it to others who were a part of it within a specific time frame.
There aren’t any conditions that I’m aware of that would restrict an item that is allowed to be traded from being traded with conditions. Assuming those conditions aren’t related to any real world currencies and assuming you aren’t otherwise attempting to exploit. If you received the drop it is yours to decide what to do with. If that were to change, a hotfix or patch would change it (possibly without notice).
If folks are harassing others then they might need to be reported themselves using the right click report option. If they are encouraging others to harass by encouraging them to report someone, that is generally considered ongoing harassment and can be reported through the ticket system under the Ongoing Harassment category.
I meant Beledar’s Spawn. Sorry for the confusion. The mount is a Shadow Elemental and the NPCs use the term Beledar’s Shadow to refer to Beledar’s ‘shadow state’ when the mob spawns, so I typed that in error. Beledar’s Spawn. That’s the mount I was referring to. Thank you very much for the clarification and info Vrakthris!
Since Vrakthris indicated that it’s not an issue, and my RNG luck has always tended to be horrible; I did wind up springing for the mount following the 3am shift. Many thanks again for all of the assistance, and the information. Now I can focus on other things like Delves, instead of hunting the mob every 3 hours. x_x
As far as I know, if you’re in a group, and a BOP item drops for someone in that group, then (usually) it can be traded to other people who were in the group that participated in the kill. But you’d have to be in a group with them before the fight started. BOP mounts like this cannot be traded to anyone you weren’t in a group with.
Blizzard needs to make it so it ONLY drops for people who do not have it. Otherwise they are just supporting goldfarming due to the number of people who farm it just to sell it to the PEOPLE WHO HELPED KILL THE RARE! I for one put the sellers on ignore and refuse to give them a single gold for something I helped them get.
You need to post in general personaly id avoid it and use the ingame suggestion feature ur suggestion wont get passed along stick to the facts leave out the gold farmers part imhop.
Why not make it so it will only drop for someone who does not have the mount to discourage people from exploiting other players for gain? Since the other people who helped kill the rare have used their time and effort, just to see some greedy goldfarmer ask them to pay for it?