I think Void Elves and High Elves are a very small population relative to the Blood Elves. We know of that 90% of High Elves that were in Quel’Thelas were killed. 10% remained renamed themselves Blood Elves and of that 1% was exiled and kept being called High Elves. Then we have the Outland High Elves at Allerian Hold, Dalaran population and the exiles who live in the lodges. Of those maybe 5% on the very high end would exist and 1% joining them. These are just High Elves.
Let’s say of the 10% of surviving Blood Elves became Void Elves what number could that be? Maybe 10% of the original surviving 10%? At the very low end 1-2% which wouldnt make a functional race, but whatever.
We include all Alliance Thalassian elves and we are talking about a fraction of people. Even at the very highest estimates. If more keep splintering off and becoming Alliance elves maybe down the road, we would see a potential civil war. Right now, the Thalassian elves in the Horde control the majority of Quel’Thelas and that’s unlikely to change anytime soon.
Not really. That was why we were there we saved the high elven/draenei outpost.
And they went back. As shown by the Three Sisters comic the Silver covenant is back in Dalaran.(it is probably one of the few Alliance that phased in our favor)
This happened in Cataclysm, after the Sunwell was restored, and was explicitly stated to have been a result of them coming across an, ‘artifact of seductive power,’ which influenced them into draining it’s energies, even when they were already having their addiction sated by the Sunwell.
Excuse me? Vandraeda is my first character and my main, and the only character I ever post on unless I am specifically showing off one of my alts, in which case I also mention that my main is Vandraeda, and even then I’ve only done that maybe a handful of times. You’ve clearly mistaken me for someone else.
Goodness, I post a few times without having my transmog up to my usual standards because I’ve been slacking on my gearing, and I get accused of being the alt of an Alliance main, despite my efforts to build a reputation of being a Sin’dorei and death knight fan above everything else. Unbelievable.
I will agree that the Silver Covenant has a lot in common with a militia, but there are plenty of examples of real-life groups that describe themselves as militia that are not officially sanctioned military, and this also applies to the Silver Covenant. They are explicitly not official Dalaran troops or representatives of the Kirin Tor as a general state of existence, acting only in that capacity when they have been deputized in a specific situation. Vereesa has no actual legal power to enact policy in Dalaran, just lots of strong social connections.
A key distinction that makes the Silver Covenant not a militia in the strictest sense, from the information you posted: “A militia is generally an army or some other fighting organization of non-professional soldiers, citizens of a country, or subjects of a state, who may perform military service during a time of need, as opposed to a professional force of regular, full-time military personnel.” The Silver Covenant never stand down, they’re full-time professional rangers with their own goals beyond anything the Kirin Tor may task them with. The appearance they made in Cata to assist the Farstriders with the fight against the Amani had nothing to do with Dalaran, it was entirely based in their history as Thalassian elves and the personal connection between Vereesa and Halduron. Windrunner’s Overlook in Crystalsong is populated exclusively by the Silver Covenant, lacking any Kirin Tor banners or NPCs.
The loss of the Sunwell did cause withdrawal symptoms in Thalassian elves, and Blood of the Highborne states that the withdrawal sickness itself was bad enough to kill very young and very old elves. From the description there it doesn’t seem to be quite the same as withering, and certainly not as extreme, but it’s not completely dissimilar either, and it’s something distinct from the wretched state induced by over-consuming mana.
Indeed, however, the two conditions are still opposites in how they come about. High Elves could use willpower to overcome addiction, but even that was supposed to have some unpleasant side-effects. Those side effects never included withering.
Very true, I just wanted to clarify that Thalassians did have a withdrawal state that could cause physical sickness and death in some cases, it just wasn’t given a specific name. I personally suspect that the Sunwell withdrawal sickness was physically akin to withering, just much less severe since the High Elves weren’t anywhere near as isolated as the Shal’dorei were. The Thalassians seemed to be much more adaptable at satiating their dependency with other types of magic, while the Shal’dorei were so shaped by the Nightwell that they specifically needed ancient mana to keep the withering at bay.
All land is troll land. It’s good to see you around again, by the way.
I can’t agree on this, unfortunately. Withering is has a very, very severe physical impact on Nightborne, quite literally twisting them into a tortured and weakened shape, while High/Blood Elves without magic never changed physically. They only changed when they over-indulged in magic.
Troll propaganda. All land is Titan land, because Azeroth is a Titan.
I’d argue that dying is a pretty severe physical change, but I understand your point. It’s entirely speculation on my part, since Blizzard hasn’t given us a detailed breakdown on how different types of magical exposure affect troll and elf anatomy beyond what’s visible at a glance. I think the Shal’dorei may have become extremely specialized in their adaptation to the specific environment of Suramar under the shield due to their isolation, and in turn their magic withdrawal state needed a very specific solution. By contrast, the Thalassians were never isolated to that degree, and so they were less dependent on their respective primary source of magic and had multiple options available to them to deal with it. At least, that’s what makes sense to me. It seems to me that the basic cause of the withdrawals, long-term exposure as a species to an arcane well and physically adapting to thrive in that environment, is the same, just that the scale of the dependency and subsequent withdrawals are vastly different.
From the new book. I would say she was tested and could have survived, but Sylvanas intervened so we don’t know. Alleria is described as a veteran of the troll wars which is weird, but also young and novice enough to need to be repeatedly tested by her mother. Alleria is both greater than and equal to her sister Sylvanas, but we don’t know how much was Sylvanas exaggerating. We do know that Sylvanas is not a trusted narrator to her own story so we can’t take her telling of events as 100% true.
We do know that currently she’s the best Windrunner alive. That isn’t to say much other than she’s the best of them currently. We also know with her void abilities she’s even stronger than she was during the Second War.
Ultimately Alleria Windrunner wouldn’t invade Quel’thelas unless she felt she could retake her homeland. She also wouldn’t want to enter the city as a conqueror, but a liberator and ally. She’s a hero that inspires all Thalassian elves. I just don’t see her as doing what Aviela implies.
There would be no trolls if not for the titans. So the Trolls are just as much “children of the titans” as anyone else. No titans=old gods win=all trolls are dead or turned into old god minions.
only some elves were exiled. you just said all elves that didnt rename were exiled which is false. ‘high elves’ were fighting for their homeland as much as anyone. it wasnt until the rommath came WAY later with new teachings to cope with the loss of sunwells energies that SOME were exiled
returned with auric their leader to their homeland who represents them. they are horde now. but please peddle your fanfiction they are still there after decades of pining for their homeland together now their leader just abandons them and what represents the SC or something? lmao
what the hell do neutral/isolationist elves have to do with the alliance? if any group wanted to actually be alliance they wouldnt be where they are. they would join the 6 actual alliance easter eggs that canonically were met with a cold reception and get mistaken for blood elves constantly
the new cutomizations which are vetted by the lore team, imply ‘high elves’ have always lived in quel’thalas and come and go as they please or are repatriating. by your peoples own logic thats the only way blue eyes make sense, from when you would argue a high elf that was fel touched would have permanent green eyes even tho devs said differently. this is just insane
the void elves couldnt even put up a civil war with quelthalas. and i dont see the lodge or dalaran siding with the void elves for that either(not that it would make a difference)
The High Elves returning home to side w their kin and Quel’thalas w Horde either offset or more than make up for any that became VEs imo, just adding that since people always like to peddle some idea there’s breaking in BE ranks or population
It’s good to see you around again, by the way.