Quel'thalas belongs to the Alliance

It always struck me as pretentious that Vereesa called herself the, ‘Ranger-General,’ of the Silver Covenant, but I suppose the title being hereditary does make it seem a whole lot less egotistical of her.

Either way, I still don’t like the title/position of Ranger-General being hereditary. Even if Alleria’s claim to the title is something she abdicated, she’s still a Windrunner, and thus one of the highest ranking nobles among Thalassian elves.

Its a pity Blizzard couldn’t have just… put her in back in BC as the actual Ranger-General of Quel’Thalas. Would’ve been interesting to see her as a Blood Elf, using Fel-infused arrows, taking down Scourge, etc… Certainly would’ve been FAR preferable to this void nonsense the current model is bogged down with.

That said, she has too much hate for the Horde to want anything to do with it that doesn’t involve shooting arrows at orcs.

i thought she was loyal to dalaran. i remember she tried to join the horde after mop too. thats some loyalty

Why should Quel’thalas be the only nation to have a Ranger General?

I never said it should.

Is the Silver Covenant a nation, though?

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Dalaran is which the Silver Covenant is a part of.

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The Silver Covenant is a Para-Military located in Dalaran and formed of citizens of Dalaran. That said, while it’s under the authority of the Kirin Tor, this isn’t because its a formal extension of the Kirin Tor or Dalaran at all. It has no formal authority or place in the hierarchy of Dalaran’s politics.

Vereesa Windrunner isn’t the Ranger-General of Dalaran.

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Yes, a military. Dalaran’s military. Ranger General is a military rank.

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At the same time the High Elf outposts in Hinterlands have been decimated by Horde Attacks, the outpost in the Plaguelands was wiped out by Withering. and apparantly their numbers have decreased enough that they’ve withdrawn from Dalaran and been replaced by Greymane’s Worgen.

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Formerly… they’re no longer a presence in Dalaran.

they lost a couple in theramore too. as you said SC could be dead for all we know, the last vestiges expunged in the legion invasion. and ofc, theyre becoming void elves now too

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No, Quel’thalas belongs to the high elves who became addicted to magic and later were freed from that becoming blood elves. Blood elves are Horde. Therefore, you are wrong. Perhaps you should go play WarCraft 3 and learn lore first?

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The High Elves were addicted to magic when they were still Night Elves… that’s what got them into so much trouble. That’s why the Sunwell was constructed in the first place… to feed the High Elven addiction to the arcane. And that’s why so many of those that survived Arthas Withered when it was taken out.

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Behind living Sylvanas, before she got her banshee powers… which was before she got her domination powers.

Yeah… in the vein of Isis.

To be fair to Lor’themar, we can thank/blame Kael’thas for that particular detail. Kael’s the one who refused to take up the crown and decreed that Anasterian would be the last king of Quel’Thalas, well before he went mad. Lor’themar can honestly say that by not taking the throne for himself and by not allowing anyone else to claim it, he is faithfully following his duties as Kael’thas’ regent. I suppose that technically a Sunstrider heir could claim to succeed Kael’thas’ role as prince and then do away with the regency, but until then Lor’themar’s in a bit of a Steward of Gondor position. Lor’themar doesn’t strictly speaking have the authority to declare himself or anyone else king, but there’s also no one with the authority to give him new instructions or dismiss him as regent.

Of course, with Kael’thas in Revendreth and actively looking to atone for his actions, and Lor’themar stating his desire to speak with him, we may finally have the loophole needed to break this status quo.

It’s also probably more beneficial than not to Lor’themar personally for him to not take up the crown. Taking up the crown would give his critics and rivals more material to oppose him, and he has no interest in the title. He also technically has more power at his disposal now than the monarchy did, since the Convocation has never been replaced as far as we know, and conveniently his best friend is the current Ranger-General.

I fully support this, if only because as it currently stands it would be chaos if something happened to Lor’themar.

Have we ever gotten a specific explanation for why Vereesa and Lor’themar seem to despise each other? Between that and her whole “Ranger-General of the Silver Covenant” thing I’ve wondered if she felt she was owed the position after Sylvanas’ death and that Lor’themar got in her way as Sylvanas’ second-in-command, but she seems to get along with Halduron well enough in Cata and Legion.

Ranger-General is a military rank, but the Silver Covenant is a para-military group, they just happen to be based out of Dalaran. The Kirin Tor has their own military, and the Silver Covenant aren’t part of it. Kirin Tor peacekeepers were even dispatched to keep the Silver Covenant and the Sin’dorei from fighting each other in Suramar.

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since youre posting on a horde alt i will post on my alliance alt. not true technically. the SC are clearly a sanctioned militia of the kirin tor and have even said that they are representatives of the kirin tor in game(literally the opposite of not being apart of it) but do operate as a paramilitary as they are frequent allies of the farstriders(horde)

A militia is generally an army or some other fighting organization of non-professional soldiers, citizens of a country, or subjects of a state, who may perform military service during a time of need, as opposed to a professional force of regular, full-time military personnel.

Generally unable to hold ground against regular forces, militias commonly support regular troops by skirmishing, holding fortifications, or conducting irregular warfare, instead of undertaking offensive campaigns by themselves. Local civilian laws often limit militias to serve only in their home region, and to serve only for a limited time; this further reduces their use in long military campaigns.

Some militias (in particular officially recognized and sanctioned militias of a government) act as professional forces, while still being “part-time” or “on-call” organizations.

Militias thus can be either military or paramilitary, depending on the instance. Some of the contexts in which the term “militia” can apply include:

  • Forces engaged in a defense activity or service, to protect a community, its territory, property, and laws

  • the entire able-bodied population of a community, town, county, or state available to be called to arms

  • a select militia composed of a small, non-representative portion of the population

that describes the SC situation perfectly and everybody knows it

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No High/Blood Elves ever, ‘Withered.’ That phenomenon is exclusive to the Nightborne. Blood Elves whom overindulged in magic became Wretched, and the High Elves of the lodge in the Eastern Plaguelands also became Wretched after an artifact of, ‘seductive magic power,’ manipulated them into drawing on it’s energies, and this despite the fact the Sunwell was already back and sating every High Elf/Blood Elf in existence.

The High Elves in the Hinterlands chose to go cold turkey on magic and never withered, which is proof enough that it’s not a phenomenon Thalassian Elves ever were known to go through.

Kind of the same thing really to be honest

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They’re… the opposite. One is starving, the other is over-consuming.

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Then how did the High Elves in the Plaguelands outpost become Wretched? Remember that at first, being a blood elf was nothing more than a name change until Illidan taught Kael’thas his new trick of sating magic addiction.