Quel'thalas belongs to the Alliance

Blood Elves are the playable High Elf race down to the kingdom, culture, lore, and restored Sunwell

what difference does it make it tho. ‘high elves’ still lived in quel’thalas even after renaming the race. literally no one cared. theyre all children of quel’thalas. all high elves. its like calling your friend or uncle high/blood elf instead of their name

like danuser said characters in wow dont think of themselves like that

Not really my point, but sure.

My point is that they call themselves “blood elves”.

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theres 3 groups of high elves

quel’thalas, dalaran, and void corrupted

Those who changed their name to blood elf.

Those who did not change their name.

And squidy. :octopus:

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I have some bad news.

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those that didnt rename still lived side by side in quel’thalas and dalaran(not all ofc, jainas/aurics elves). at least dalaran is outside of quelthalas so it can be counted as a separate group. voids are their own thing too

outside of that there are no other high elf hubs

And “assorted”.

The damn things do wander and sometimes take up piracy, after all.

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I mean, that’s always true.

The sheer majesty of their hair alone is worth a few lesser species.

Edit: though on reflection, I see you added one with a beard. Very tragic.

My post was a joke and nothing more I assure you.

Let me get one thing very, very clear here: I am not a “high elf” fan, at least not in the way that you imply, nor have I ever been. On the contrary, I am a staunch Sin’dorei fan, and I have always been very clear about such. That you would assume that I am not just because I don’t think the lore supports that Vereesa Windrunner spent any noteworthy time in Quel’Thalas between the Scourge invasion and Burning Crusade is incredibly disrespectful. You are not the gatekeeper of what Sin’dorei fans believe.

What is this nonsense? I go without a proper transmog to save gold because I’m behind on my playing and gearing up, and suddenly I get accused of being an Alliance main and a high elf fan?

As for the Sunwell: it’s a sacred site that is very carefully guarded by elite spellbreakers at all times, specifically because of how important it is. High Elves are allowed to make pilgrimages to it because of the great cultural significance it still has to them and because Lor’themar wants to acknowledge that, but they do so under strict supervision. There is no evidence whatsoever that those who currently call themselves “High Elves” are legally allowed unsupervised freedom of movement in Quel’Thalas. There are some cases of them sneaking in, such as Alleria’s search for the Ren’dorei, but just because they managed to not get caught doesn’t mean that they were allowed to be there. If you have concrete evidence of high elves being allowed to roam free in Quel’Thalas at their leisure, please provide it.

Blood elves were fighting to reclaim their land. There’s no indication that any of the elves present in Quel’Thalas at that point were still using the “Quel’dorei” name prior to the exile based on the divide over mana tapping. Kael’thas was the head of government, and everyone who followed his leadership at that point took up the name Sin’dorei. Otherwise we could expect to hear about elves who kept the Quel’dorei name while taking part in the mana tapping of living creatures and thus avoiding exile, but we don’t.

Yes, Vereesa totally went and lived in Quel’Thalas for extended periods of time without her husband or twin babies, despite the fact that they had only gotten married after the Scourge invasion, and got married in part because they specifically never wanted to be apart from each other again. /sarcasm

Presumably she got in touch with other elves who were already in and around Dalaran, since that’s where she and her family lived, or perhaps she recruited exiles from elsewhere in the Alliance. Despite the fact that they function as comparable factions for the sake of gameplay, the Sunreavers and the Silver Covenant are quite different in their purpose. The Sunreavers are simply members of the Kirin Tor who happen to be Horde citizens. Vereesa founded the Silver Covenant specifically to oppose the admission of Aethas and other Sin’dorei into the Kirin Tor, and she was already making life hard for Aethas before the Horde decided to assault Northrend.

Yes, and always under supervision, whether that be with the Ranger-General or the Warchief.

Vereesa tries to shoot Rommath during the insurrection against Elisande’s forces in Suramar, and has to be talked out of it by Khadgar. It’s one of the gossip lines from the Kirin Tor Peacekeepers who are present.

I personally use “Thalassian” as the descriptor when I want to indicate all elves from Quel’Thalas. Vandraeda is Sin’dorei, and to quote our late prince, “we are no longer high elves!”

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So you’re saying if Lanesh returned rn to Quel’thalas he would be under strict supervision ?

And all of Mags other citations?

Pretty sure most people think Alliance aligned Quel’dorei when High Elves are brought up, like Vereesa and Alleria (who’s isn’t a Void Elf despite her void powers).

People say Blood Elves when they mean Sin’dorei, such as those loyal to the Horde or those who were loyal to Kael’thas in Outland, or the Scryers who were independent of either. But no one would call Vereesa a Blood Elf.

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yea they have nothing. cant argue honestly either. just look at how they cant even accept vereesa visiting. they just keep arguing about her ‘living’ there. which actually is possible windrunner spire was hers before her exile

they claim ‘high elves’ dont live in quel’thalas but shadows in the sun proved differently

there are ‘high elf’ pilgrims and blood elf pilgrims hanging out on queldanas which um is part of quel’thalas and the only time we have seen an updated look at quel’thalas

auric lives in quel’thalas and represents his elves there. if he moved to stormwind(lol) how would he represent them? who the hell does he need to represent in stomwind? is he gonna represent the 2 elves in stormwind for the alliance? lmao

the fact that they argued for years that blue eyes means alliance(lol) but now it doesnt

and they still cant provide any source for their fanfiction that all ‘high elves’ are banned and cant visit anything but the sunwell or dont live there. never mind alleria strolled through silvermoon to see lorthemar and was welcomed when asked if she could see the sunwell lorthemar instantly said ofc

its still the same race :joy:

when you have sources that say ALL ‘high elves’ are banned from their homeland and none live there let me know

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I almost commented on this as exhibit A of why they might be mistaken for someone pushing an Alliance HE narrative

Also I have to question anyone referring to Kael as our late prince… which he is but it kinda sounds endearing and last I checked Kael ended up betraying the BEs

The quote still doesn’t change what Blood Elves are or the implications of HEs returning home

Auric Sunchaser is indeed an Alliance aligned High Elf, not a Blood Elf. His title of Captain comes from his position at Allerian Stronghold in Outland. One of the Alliance Island Expedition teams in BfA was Auric’s Angels.

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what does he do in the alliance then? represent the 2 elves in stomwind?

“hey you human you cant discriminate against elsharin, she’s a high elf not a blood elf! theres a difference if you dont know please allow me to elaborate”

To be fair you’re engaging w someone who earlier

Elaborated that both Thal and Lorthemar would switch sides

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He is the military captain of the High Elves that left Quel’thalas to take the fight the Old Horde on their home world of Draenor, and as stated apparently trains special ops teams for the Alliance.

Lor’themar reached out to Varian to leave the Horde and rejoin the Alliance during Garrosh’s war.

Thalyssra then at Nazjatar convinced Lor’themar to work with the Alliance again by reminiscing about the Night Elves and Blood Elves working together to liberate Suramar.

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oh wow where is this stated