I thought Tyrande was one of the few from Suramar not to be Highborne individual
All highborn are night elves.
thats like the difference between a farstrider and a magister blood elf
But you knew what I meant!
Which is my point here.
if i wanted to refer to the night elves as a whole im going to say night elves. not lowborne and highborne
same thing with high elves
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The Highborne story is the Nightborne story
Of the Shendrelar that re entered NE society wasn’t that just like a handful of elves that had been living in some cave up until that point not even an intact society like Nightborne
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But if you say night elves, people may take your meaning to be the extant, Alliance aligned population. Not a group that overall includes naga, high (blood, void) elves, assorted highborn, spider elves, and a group of elves who walled themselves up in a magical bubble and who were so mutated by the energy they were exposed to that they even bleed a different color.
Unless you specify when necessary, of course!
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why would i include nightborne naga and spider elves when referring to night elves as a race. hell even high elves. come on now
Because they’re all night elves?
naw. theyd be trolls with that logic
I have to agree w Mag from what I can gather of this convo
I tend to know what people mean though based on where they’ve argued on the topic though, and considering you argued in favor of Blood Elves losing visual uniqueness I can guess which High Elf group you typically refer to.
As long as you know I’m referring to Blood Elves most times as the only credible population of High Elves of note then we understand each other I think
The Whisperwind are of nobility from Suramar and the Stormrages are provincial peasants from the province of Val’Sharah. At least that was the implication. Tyrande chose to slum with the poor, especially the attractive twins Illidan and Malfurion from the neighboring area.
That’s sorta the joke about the history of the three. She was chosen to be a priestess of Elune and came from a good family. She fell in love with Malfurion trained by Cenarius who is from the backwater area. That’s why Nightborne joke about their Night Elf cousins and ask about Tyrande.
“Tyrande still looks good after all these years. Know if she’s seeing anyone?” and
“I met this kal’dorei who told me my dress was the pinnacle of fashion… 10,000 years ago. Ouch! Those night elves really know how to throw shade!
Night elves? More like country elves! They live in trees, sleep in dens… sometimes even grow antlers. They’re not cut out for life in a REAL city.”
Basically, I just find it unnecessary to call blood elves high elves. Unless discussing times when they were calling themselves high elves.
It’s like calling the Fal’dorei night elves. Technically correct, but it muddies discussion and slows things down for the sake of being pedantic. (I’m certainly not above that, of course.)
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On average I would imagine Blood Elves have more common ancestry w Nightborne than NEs and we had Lorash who literally remembers being a NE at one point so he’s old enough to remember presumably.
And that point of common ancestry makes sense why they get along the way they do
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Before Allied Races, no one called them High Elves. Now that we’ve got about fifty flavors of elf running around, and the faction conflict, as usual, promoted tribalism among players, there are some players who call Blood Elves, ‘High Elves,’ either as a self-defense mechanism to protect what they view as their racial identity, others whom do so as a snide insult to Alliance players whom have been questing with groups of NPCs actually calling themselves, ‘High Elves,’ since WoW began, or trolls looking to stir the pot of the elf vs. elf forum drama.
At the end of the day, everyone knows the difference, and when one says, ‘High Elf,’ their first thought doesn’t go to the, ‘For the Horde,’ group that swapped blue for red, nor the, ‘Lla yrolg ot eht doiv,’ group that dipped themselves in the purple cola.
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I mean, for the sake of argument, if Blizzard came out tomorrow and said, “all those short pinkish elves added to the Alliance were a mistake; they were supposed to be gnomes but one of the interns is bad at reading”, I’d still find it rather unhelpful to call blood elves high elves.
Just like night elves don’t call themselves dark trolls.
But we’d have more gnomes around, so that’d be cool.
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pretty sure for most people high elves are blood elves and void elves. they dont think of a couple elves in alliance. just like when people see the words night elves the faldorei or naga do not spring to mind
Blood Elves have never been ones to shy away from who they are or the legacy and culture they alone uphold and continue.
If Blizzard were smart they’d say all those Alliance, ‘High Elves,’ are supposed to be Half-Elves, but they lacked the unique models for them. Let actual, ‘High Elves,’ in the Alliance just be reduced to named characters like Auric, Alleria, Vereesa, etc… rather than all the generic NPCs.
But, they won’t, and the boat has sailed.
Which is why they renamed themselves. To honor the memory of the fallen after a rather horrific and (just possibly) slightly important event.
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