Um, no.
Destro is far from being “above average.” Lol idk where you get your numbers from.
I know this is not he right place to post this but I’m struggling to break above 500k DPS as Demonology and I can’t figure out what I’m doing wrong. Got booted out of a pug for low DPS for the first time yesterday, meanwhile I’ve seen warriors doing almost twice that.
I can assure you that destro is definitely above average now. I’m not interested in linking you my qualifications or raiding experience for how I get my numbers, but you can always check or look at my logs if you’re interested (which I doubt you will do, you’ll just doom anyways like you did in the beta thread too).
Where do you get your numbers from? You know, I was prepared for you to link me the warcraft logs stats page, but then I realized it even confirms what I’m saying anyway. Insane.
I’d recommend that you try taking a look in the warlock discord, and if you’re not finding what you’re looking for to ask in the “ask for help” section of the discord, or asking somebody in the demonology chat.
If you’re worried about doing that, you can take a look at some guides from kalamazi on youtube or icyveins / wowhead.
Before someone says anything, yes, class discords can be a little prickly, just keep an open mind on trying to get better and people will help you.
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Bro stop, he’s already dead.
Edit: on topic though, those bugs we reported on beta are still there for diabolist pet targeting as well as rancora not working properly half the time.
Thank you for the reply. I didn’t know there was a discord; I’ll try that.
I’ve been playing aff and overall it’s been great, tho I agree with points listed by op.
For me I’d like to see aff given a bit more options to do damage between cd usage, especially in lower keys, time walking etc where packs have lower health. It’s not about overall dmg, aff is great in that regard… But it can feel like a complete waste of time to try and DPS in situations where mob counts are low, low health, between big pulls etc. it’s impossible to get dots out and do any meaningful damage in time l, which leaves me basically following the group along making token efforts waiting until we get to a boss or meatier pack.
I know this wouldn’t be high on the priority list of things for devs to look at but I think it would be very healthy for the spec to have it less…extreme performance swings from pull to pull
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I never asked for your numbers so concerned much? Then to ask for my numbers as if i would give them to you after that speel is laughable at best.
There is doom and then there is criticism. I am critical of blizz bc they always f it up. But the problem with that is your perspective, which i care nothing about.
Destro is far from above-average as you state because 6% aura plus 40% dmg increase to an already dead talent isnt going to make the 12-15%+ it would take for destro to become median.
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I don’t know why I’m interacting with you anymore, but it’s just hilarious to claim you didn’t ask about my numbers when you literally claim that my numbers are wrong by saying, “Where do you get your numbers from?”. Any reasonable human would then try and let the other person know why they would think their numbers are more correct.
The only thing that’s laughable is your incapability to understand common discourse in a forum format. If you claim my numbers are wrong, the inference is that you have other numbers to back it up or you wouldn’t make blanket statements stating that somebody is completely incorrect. This is the definition of confidently incorrect, when you won’t even reference any type of reasonable numerical or factual evidence to back up your claim.
Destro has had an 11% aura buff since launch + aoe buffs + targeted talent buffs to almost every weak talent in our spec tree. Claiming that destruction is somehow below average now requires proof, which you have none of, other than personal anecdotes and made up numbers. If you can prove to me that destro is 12-15% behind median in an overall perspective, I wish you luck.
Don’t claim something without any evidence while simultaneously posting on a character that isn’t even in the current expansion.
12-15% is so ludicrous of a number to state that you are either an exceptionally poor player, or someone that is overly critical to troll online forums.
If you have actual evidence or feedback to give on the state of destruction, by all means, do it here. But making blanket statements with no proof, accusing other posters of incorrect information while providing no provable statements yourself, and making numbers out of thin air that are so absurd that any reasonable player would think are equally as absurd is just a sad look for you.
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Hes either bad or trolling on purpose. Ive been top 3 every raid boss since the buffs and usually on top in m+ as well.
Not to mention this weeks logs prove destro is top 10 in M+ and Raid.
Also, just queued some BGs as destro and got top dmg 3 games I a row.
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Antidotal evidence.
“You” is not factual evidence. Its subjective.
Lol @ ‘if you dont agree with me your obviously wrong and only making blanket statements’ defense.
You are not worth the time.
I use my factual dozens of hours of raid and m+ time on top of logs.
Logs put destro in top 10.
Cry more
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Again, not factual. Antidotal. Your specific instance does not prove to ample degree of certainty of its rating, especially against a million+ registered pool of logs. At best your a grain of rice in a big bag of rice. We can delete your logs and absolutely nothing would be lost bc of it.
The millions of logs place destro in top 10.
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Logs. Always use logs. That pretty much says if it’s performing.
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In terms of pure gameplay.
Demo would be a lot more fun if it was like s1/2 of df, with the added new talents.
Destro should get back it’s interaction between channel and decimation, they should also unnerf avatar and infernal.
At least partially. Avatar should at least return to 15 soul shards.
Yea, there was the issue of rain of fire, i frankly do not care. Find another way to fix this problem.
Remove pyrogenics, reduce cast time of chaos bolt, make rain of fire reduce the duration of ritual only if it hits at least 2 enemies, whatever, find any solution other than destroying the generation of infernal, and avatar especially, like avatar generates ALMOST NOTHING.
Afflicion for me is the weaker of the 3 in terms of gameplay, but the most fun is by far destro, even if it’s undertuned.
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Huge, huge Shwdowburn enjoyer. On-demand shard burning AND what can be a really great execute & guaranteed crit for other spells. It’s what more spells in the destruction tree should lean toward.
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I still think Gloom of Nathreza needs to have a new effect for Destruction. Not only is it much weaker than the Demonology equivalent of the talent, Havoc isn’t even picked up in the standard ST Shadowburn build. It just feels very bad having a completely dead talent in the Hero tree.
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cataclysm should be instant cast and being able to choose btw target or area selection.
remove havoc already sorry but feels like we cant have nice ST because of it, silk court is amazing for destro , but the 2 target niche sucks.
…buuuuut SILKEN COURT …no1 wants a 2 target niche spec because when it happens yeah is amazing being top 1 on that boss , but what about the other 7…
are destro locks balanced around 1 target or 2 ?
anyway , destro still is a turret , is the “warlock thing” but times has changed , and now u get mechanics on top of other mechanics … is not fun , then u see the other casters casting while moving ,having tons of instant casts ,while toping the meter while u are begging for some breath to cast something , sidesteping mechanics left and right.
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I think it’s alright having stock damage increases (think hellcaller tree), but the havoc one in particular feels bad because it impacts a specific talented ability instead of our character as a whole. Speccing into it just feels like it could have been a much better option as a part of our hero talent.
I definitely agree!
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