#PullTheRipcord

The only thing that needs change is Conduits to being on interactive charges, and then the system would be a total-non issue.

But for some strange reason, we need to change Covenants because of Meta picks, despite it only being needed in cutting-edge content, but the player perception (for some unearthly reason) thinks that you need to copy the Meta for all content.

Or

We need to change Covenants because people can’t experiment, which also doesn’t make sense because you can hop to all four Covenants without incurring the two-week shut down, so you completely bypass the restriction.

Or

We need to change Covenants because of people doing multiple forms of content, which again doesn’t make sense since 90% of the content is possible using any combination of Covenants and classes, so the only people who actually benefit from that would be the people doing the 10% of the content, which is pretty much 10% of the player base.

It’s such a weak argument at best, petty convenience wishing at worst.

I’m actually not as a rogue my class abilities are out of balance by a large margin.

It is a choice, lmao.

If you lack the self control to not swap or not fly then then that is ENTIRELY on you.

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Once again Trollnechka it is the covenant class abilities people want to change not the actual covenants themselves .

We have given ways like earning the abililities via leveling and through the wqs we do for the other covenants.

We want our meaningful covenants that fit the look we want

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Good evening Sonechka, lets get right back into it shall we?

Your argument here is that abilities are only 1-2% different when comes to the content they effect, which have been prove false time and time again. So it will not “just” effect cutting edge content it will, in fact, affect all content.

I shouldn’t have to change my citizenship just because I want to take a two week trip to ski in the Alps
It has no effect on the lore, whatsoever. It’s easily justifiable and can be easily rewritten/explained/recoded.

I’ve already addressed this but ill say it again.
This argument is solely based on the belief that covenant abilities will only have a 1-2% effect on the content you choose to play.
This is wrong, there are drastic differences in power between each covenant soulbind and abilities.
To say it will only affect the cutting edge is woefully disingenuous if not an outright lie at this point.

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I never said anything about the actual numbers. It only affects the player perception that ‘they need to take X to clear Normal Raids’, when in reality that’s not the case.

You could inflate those numbers any way you want; you’d still be able to complete 90% of the content regardless.

Nice Snowman.

Doesn’t matter. The numbers could be anything you shove in there, you could still clear 90% of said content regardless of selection.

As weak as you think it is, it’s 100x better than the absolute non argument you guys have. Muh “meaningful choice” which is the biggest nothing.

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So meaningful you have 9K thread about ripping it down, so clearly there’s meaning in it, just not what you’re expecting.

Trying to rip the character power portion out of it yes. Covenants would be perfectly fine as is if they were just cosmetic/story choice.

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Thats not true, many raids have “DPS checks” when it comes to raid bosses. meaning if you dont have the DPS you wont kill the boss. Being sub optimal in those situation will lead to a lack of clearing that content.

Not to mention PvP which im hesitent to get into because my information is sorely lacking , but I would imagine any gap in power thats cant be overcome by ability is a huge red flag in content completion.

The numbers cannot be “anything” this is woefully incorrect or an outright lie depending on how you view Sonechka’s intent.

Then they would be as engaging as all the other neutral factions over the past fifteen years. Player power carries with it meaningful choice. This thread proves that in spades.

And Heroic Raids are considerably lower checks compared to Mythic. As the same people in this thread have bragged, anyone can clear a Heroic, so again only affecting cutting-edge players.

PvP has never been balanced, at all.

It only carries weight in cutting-edge content, where the over-competitive can ego stroke their meters and compare their logs playing the same Meta specs.

Bfa has been the literal worst xpac for pvp.

Which would be a good thing. I remember being excited and enjoying all the time I spent with Netherwing back in BC. Good reward at the end of the long grind. Not player power but cosmetic. That’s how things should be.

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Ok if they had never included player power with the covenants you still would of considered (even though since you have actually admitted in this thread to being a troll that you really don’t care about the player power part) the covenants as rp aesthetics as meaningful .

If you can can say with a straight face I am wrong then you are a better liar then a certain game director.

So you can’t make a meaningful choice when it comes to player power because…? You don’t like it, or is there something actually tangible?

Yeah, anyone can clear Mythic too, just need to find what the gold value of the run you buy is.

That doesn’t mean numbers don’t matter.

Agreed, that doesn’t make it right.

Again, woefully disingenuous or a lie, you decide.

That specifically means number DON’T matter if you can buy your cutting-edge achieve.

I’ve got a website full of logs and scores if you wanna see; warcraftlogs.com

You can, but the issues comes down to… wait for it… numbers.
If all the abilities where balanced, your right this would be a point in your favor. But their not, and I as well as most people here (I assume) dont trust Blizz to balance them right without nerfing all of them to the point where they stop being a button you even want to press.

So it’s nothing then. Expecting the balance of a PvP MOBA for a MMORPG is impossible. Over-competitive players can pound sand.