One of mine literally knocks me out of combat if I want to solo something.
Players also need to keep in mind that the covenant abilities are not the only thing working to balance out covenants. There are conduits and even interactions with certain content that only those of that covenant can do.
It is a complex system not just 1 or 2 things. This is basically to the point of choosing a new class to add on top of the one you are playing that comes with all the bells and whistles in terms of choice just like you do with your class currently.
You now have 2 of them to customize instead of 1.
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New class? A couple crappy abilities doesn’t make a new class. Also, conduits are just Azerite on a new UI.
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The problem with complex systems is they break extremely easily. A lever is an extremely simple system the only way it’s gong to break is trying to move too heavy of a weight. A computer by contrast the average person is likely going to be clueless troubleshooting without the help of the internet because it has far more complexity.
Also choosing a new class at max level is literally the worst idea possible in an mmo and can only lead to frustration and anger in the majority of the playerbase.
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Not according to the giga-brains developing WoW. They seem to think that the more complex something is, the easier it’ll be to tune things.
Also this. Who was asking for an entirely new class on top of their existing class? We already have specializations.
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I misread it. I deleted my post. My response. Should they treat it like the aldor and scryers in TBC? Once you max one out. You can do another and so on.
Not sure why people keep bringing this up. The only difference between the two was an enchant, that’s it.
I just made a topic they need to delay the expansion until they get everything situated.
Unfortunately Blizzard simps think they can do no wrong
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For those don’t care about their DPS numbers or running top tier content those choice are important. You character becomes more then just a thing that you log into just for raids. Thats why people are not happy with abilities that can changed and covenants.
Meh. Acti-Blizz might be pressuring them to release, but Ion and his team and the ones who decided to throw every system they could imagine into the expansion. If they aren’t ready it is entirely their own fault, and they should experience the consequences.
Acti-Blizz won’t let WoW fail. Couple of months of dumpster fire will be worth it to get a better team in charge.
Just gonna quote myself:
You never get all the skills and abilities. Even if they made a skill tree you still would have to chose between what you wanted.
What part of the words you quoted says “I want to use every single thing at the same time?”
The aldor and scryer system was less than a .5% dps difference by tier 5. Covenants are significantly more when factoring in soulbinds and abilities and legendary interaction with those.
Except I could choose it at will not with a time gated grind.
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Just checked the vid out and checked out some of the replies and saw a response from some one named Ralph and knew exactly who it was
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But you could literally just choose one and not change it. This is the same argument of anti flyers who want to impose their restrictions on everyone else rather than restricting themselves. I know someone who doesn’t ride a horse in town due to considering it not proper when rping. They don’t demand blizzard takes away everyone else’s horse when in town because that would be dumb yet that is what people want here. They want to control what other people can do rather than exhibiting their own self control.
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And whose fault is that, I think all the naysayers add their part. Instead of being more open and welcoming.
Sounds like no one cares about those pugs, not blizzard, not the people that play this game a lot and also not all the naysayers.
Those arguments sometimes on this forum: blizz has to change things to my liking, cause otherwise the pugs will suffer.
That’s just sad.
How about making this game good for everyone and not only for a few, those few will find a way to be the best they can be without blizzards help.
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Here is post 1000 
If covenants just become a skill tree then it loses it meaning. The skills represent the flavor of the covenants. Its more then just “skill a and skill b”. Each soul bind and ability is built around a theme. It would be like swapped a wizard and a warlock spells because one is better then the other.