Having been around during that era… you’re exaggerating, at least outside of dedicated groups. People rolled need on everything before personal loot, mostly out of fear that they’d get nothing otherwise.
If you were greed-rolling ANYTHING, you’re not getting it.
Because someone else was gonna roll need on it.
About the best that can be done is enforced main-spec only need rolls… and WoW even makes that a bit dicey with how easy it is to switch specializations. Personal loot is a surprisingly elegant solution within WoW’s systems.
Nah. Just because it isn’t a full guild run doesn’t mean it needs a worse loot system. Also, personal loot got cut for multiple factors including the loot stacking issue.
It wasn’t though.
And personal loot wouldn’t change that.
Not right. Cloaks and jewelry raining from on high does not mean it was useful.
This is really only a problem in LFR. If you run into the situation of having no rogues, no hunters, or no DH, that’s a problem with how you built your raid group.
Not a single person has been able to show bad luck protection in personal loot.
This applies to you as well
It’s not a violation of a single rule, so it does not.
I don’t know why you would expect anyone going into a PUG as an individual to be on the lookout for anyone but themself. Why should they care about someone else’s personal progression? Making gold is part of the game.
Yea I did this a little, but it’s kind of exhausting. Also, the last boss in a wing makes this kind of a no go, unless you happen to catch people afterwards and trade out of raid. (I’m assuming LFR for most of this, btw)
I was working on an addon to help me, but I got sidetracked
The entire notion that you’ve judged your personal need more important than anyone else’s need because you value your need higher when everyone’s time was equally involved is the entire issue here.
No one ever owes you anything beyond an opportunity to roll for an item. That you aren’t having to roll against the entire raid simply benefits you even further.
So this is arguably why the transmog roll exists, so – IMO – a person has every right to be upset at the situation because Need is arguably designated for combat upgrades.
We all go into the raids with a preconceived notion of what the rolls “mean”. I’ve argued multiple times that Need is not meant for Transmog or Greed, and this is (or should be) fairly obvious. Yet, we continually have people rationalizing and acting the victim.
Blizzard has not and (seemingly) will not ever step in to even clarify, though, so it really doesn’t matter. We just get these weekly revivals of the same banter with nothing ever changing.
I would.
why should I not get paid for putting in the work just because the drop isnt an upgrade?
IF I do that, I could play for weeks without getting anything for my effort.
I do understand – I have 1 alt I run in LFR. I do it because he is not my main.
He has so far in the last 4 weeks come out with zero wins on any rolls. Not once has he gotten a single item from any roll/boss. I will say, it does feel pretty bad. They should at a minimum give something on the last boss if you got nothing at all…but I guess that is what the vault is for.
I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get anything but in the last 4 weeks of raids I got 2 tier pieces. One of which nobody wanted. I think I was competing with one other lock in the raid
But that’s still not good enough rewards imo. How I wish they could let us pick which boss we want loot from. I just want the trinkets
I have such terrible luck on rolls (I don’t gamble because even on roulette I end up losing and that is 50/50 chance). RNG really hates me… even leveling back in OG wow days – my friends would get their 20 gore tusks and I’d till be on #3.
