Heirlooms are not necessary for character advancement, they are a perk for veteran players who want to level new characters quickly, which is provided by the XP boost and the need to not have to replace the gear as one levels. That is every definition of a luxury item.
Have we finally dug down to the core of your bad argument? You thought that heirlooms are a catch-up mechanic? ![:smile:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/smile.png?v=6" ":smile:")
While they do seem a bit expensive, remember you are talking about a serious LUXURY item. Not having to worry about most of your gear until 120 and getting XP bonuses on top is pretty handy. Plus you donât need to upgrade your weapons as your Legion legendary will be fine until 115 and by then you will have good options from WQ. You wonât do the neck because you will be using the HoA and you donât need shoulders, chest or helm due to easy and more powerful azerite armor.
hello mister very intelligent 200IQ person
you mention âlegion legendariesâ so youâre obviously refering to characters people had during legion, very smart and inteligent, a mind full of wonders
Sorry, I meant artifact weapon. You know that class weapon everyone gets at 110 in Legion. So unless you are using a token to completely skip over Legion and into BFA you would be earning it. And honestly if you are going to skip to 110, why would you even waste your time on upgrading your heirlooms for BFA?
My point is, most of the actually heirloom items wonât need to be upgraded for BFA because there are easier and better alternatives you can get in game.
Oh Tarc you silly.
Youâre trying to tell us that spending about 1 million gold to upgrade the heirloom collection is ok on an expansion where the entire economy is based off on gold sinks and the gold earned prior to that expansion, youâre a very silly person mister Tarc.
There are no more gold-generating mission tables like there were in Legion or WOD, you cant generate 100k gold per week just with tons of alts. The gold you have now you either get it from other people by market/trade, or you buy tokens.
With the amount of gold sinks the number of available gold is already diminishing greatly without adding another massive one, and this will remove more gold from the game than the Longboi ever did, this promotes radically the sale of Tokens while raising the price of Gold drastically.
Blizzard knows this, and has planned it with this only specific thing in mind: selling tokens.
Obviously, this doesnât affect great Tarc, hoarder of Gold, but it does affect everybody else :))
Apathy is death, my silly friend
I have just about all the heirlooms still available and a full set of each gear upgraded and honestly I wish they would make it so they just gave the xp bonus and didnât give you the gear. It makes levelling far less fun when you donât get many gear upgrades as you go. Iâll probably upgrade my heirlooms with PvP tokens if they are back allowing that, but would much rather they just changed the heirloom system all together.
Hello mister super IQ, happy to respond to your inteligentornomous reply once again!
The artifact weapon is given to the PC at level 98, not 110, but it stops being better than the heirloom fairly quickly, much sooner than level 110 for that matter, the only way to raise its ilvl is playing Legion lvl 110 content to get those stones to put into the weapon.
Thanks a lot for your wisdomrous advice though, we shall all raid 110 content before going into BFA!
Are you leveling every single class and spec simultaneously? Do you really need to upgrade all 93 possible heirlooms all at onceâŚand this includes buying the initial one and ten upgrading it from 60-120?
I seriously doubt that you do. In an earlier post, I laid out the cost to upgrade a basic set of heirlooms for the 4 gear types, from lv 100 to 110, then 110-120, for 600k. Someone else replied and pointed out that not all of the 11 slots have the +XP, so if thatâs all you wanna focus on itâd be even less.
The way I play the game isnât up to you to decide or judge, you silly, silly person.
Edit: Also, even if you loot and farm everything non-market-relatable during 5 years of BFA you will not have 600k gold, you will probably not even have half that gold.
But, once again, that obviously doesnât affect the great Tarc, Hoarder of Gold.
Youâre looking at the wrong goalposts, chief.
Theyâre not setting the costs on necessarily what youâd earn during just the length and breadth of BfA, but rather on what many players have coming into BfA. If youâre just starting from scratch now, well, ten thes eupgrades are about as much out of your price range as a new Silverado is out of my price range IRL.
If you skipped WoD and/or Legion, well, tough !@#$ says the kitty.
Seriously, if you are trying to be insulting or condescending but all you are actually being is annoying. Hold your petty insults and try to at least pretend your an adult and have an adult conversation.
Doesnât change my point that you will still be earning it, now 2 levels before I had thought.
Donât you get the same Legion artifact weapon we all had at the end of Legion when they were burned out? If so, that weapon did my just fine on 3 different characters until 115. Now I havenât leveled a character thru Legion since then, so if the artifact weapons have no scaling then you would be correct and they would probably need to be replaced at some point.
But you would still be fine without upgrading your HoA and 3 azerite armor slots. So you are talking about a back slot, weapons and legs. Not sure I would waste the cash on trinket or rings as they are easy enough to get from crafting skills these days.
While I do kinda miss getting new gear while leveling, and it is a shame most has to be vendored, the only downside of your approach would be the need to re-enchant when you get new eq. I kinda like 1 Mark of the Distant Army, Elemental Force, etcâŚfrom start to end.
Thought it was quite obvious at this point⌠Activebliz, is just trying to milk us now before the ship goes down.
Store + Token/Service sale, is where its at!
Hello mister supreme lord of the universe of Intelligentness, always a pleasure to talk to your supremious intelligent self!
You can still put gems in your artifact weapon even though theyâre grayed out! In fact, that is still the only way to raise its ilvl past the very-low initial ilvl.
Also, Looms become better than gem-less Artifact weapon halfway through Legion content, and even if youâre targetting quests that reward Artifact Gems, you still are far worse than a Heirloom by the time you hit level 110.
But of course you already knew that and is just testing my wits
Bad argument. Thatâs rich coming from someone like you. Your fall back is âbecause Blizzard said soâ.
This is where they could fix it with a new heirloom system. Instead of gear that has the bonus xp they could just make it an heirloom enchant that applies an enchant and the bonus xp to whatever gear you get. That would fix both problems and still allow you to get gear as you go. When you get a new piece you would just have to go into the heirloom interface and apply the heirloom enchant.
This particular discussion is about the gold cost. Iâm well aware that there are other methods, but the point being made is that this method isnât balanced.
Since I am unaware of what the cost will be for other sources of these upgrades, I do not feel comfortable discussing those methods until I know more. If and when I know more, Iâll be happy to give you my opinion on whether or not those are priced reasonably or not.
They only cost if your willing to pay. The upgrade isnât worth it and most of my characters are already leveled to at least 110+ out of my 40+ characters.
I only have a couple toons left that arenât 120. If I was going to use heirlooms, Iâd honestly only upgrade legs, rings, and cloak for 110-120, head, shoulder and chest will be using azerite armor, and nothing else provides exp boost.
And the new cloak can be used for any class, so thatâs a good one to upgrade.