PSA: Flagging is NOT the replacement for downvotes!

Point is, discussions on ANYTHING to do with the World of Warcraft game can be discussed in General Discussion. It even says that in the welcome message, ie:

Welcome to the General Discussion forum! This forum is here to provide you with a friendly environment where you can discuss all aspects of World of Warcraft with your fellow players.

The Classics forum is there for people who want to reach a specific target forum audience, the same as ones for professions, pvp, specific classes and so on. It is not wrong to post about Classic in the general forum. There is no violation of any rules in that regard and reporting people for it would be wrong.

It’s not a rule violation. But there are specific forums for other things for a reason. It cuts down on the stuff you find in GD and gets things where they need to be for MVPs and CMs to help out with things.

And we specifically asked for a Classic forum to keep it out of GD and in its own spot. Otherwise, this place would be a mess of constant turnover of threads and it’d be impossible to keep up with conversations.

Maybe I dunno. Harassment is something reoccurring though. Like if I follow you thread to thread picking fights.

I just had a discussion where people said they flagged me because I wouldn’t bend the knee, but I am like Jon Snow and I am entitled to my opinion, it is funny people feel so threaten by your own opinion and if you don’t disagree to your own opinion they flag you, but I flagged back for harassment.

wait

didn’t the op get buried for this?

It was indeed flagged into oblivion. lol

But the mods fixed that. :slightly_smiling_face:

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That happens anyhow, on a huge range of topics. If the response is to complain about one topic being “on the wrong forum” then the same thing should happen to talk on Warmode which frequently flood the pages. They should be directed to the PvP forum. Or all those discussions on Lore - they should be limited to the Lore forum.

You can’t use the excuse that a forum was created for Classic and therefore it should be banned here. The forum was created for the same reason the other ones were - as I said, to provide a specific topic forum similar to the others.

hmmmm

interesting

I never said it should be banned. Not once. And many threads have been moved on the old forums-- when we had the option to report for wrong forum. They simply moved it. I’m not sure why this is such an issue when it’s something we’ve always had the ability to do in the past.

No, you did not say the word “banned”. You did however offer it as a suggested violation of GD post rules which (if it was a violation) would have the person making the post open for punishment.

A difference that is no difference is no difference at all.

No I did not. I suggested it be back as an option in the report listing-- like it was on the old forums. Nowhere did I say it should be a violation of the code. It wasn’t even listed as a violation. It was listed by itself to be reported to a moderator so that they can move it-- like it was on the old forums.

You’re reading stuff into things that don’t exist.

Ah I see. Well, I don’t really as I’m not telepathic. When you list suggestions for reporting alongside harassment, violations of the Code of Conduct and Language it’s hard not to make that assumption.

Completely separate options, similar to what we used to have on the old forums. Just because it’s under “report” doesn’t mean “give this guy a vacation.”

But can be reworded to: “Incorrect Forum - needs moved to correct forum” if it’s somehow that vague.

I read that it’s some packaged forum software that they’re using on this site - it’s from a different developer. I don’t know if they had to give them the specs to modify for Blizzard’s use but that pokemon that shows up when you refresh is from that software’s system. I don’t know if Blizz programmers can make the changes you’re asking for or they have to the other software company do the modifications.

A lot of things are wonky (like unsubbed people posting) and each of your characters are on their own). Blizzard probably has all these forum issues written down to submit for fixes. They may be working on them already, iono.

They can make changes-- they’ve already done so for this forum. I think it’s merely a matter of how long the flagging abuse will go on before we see some coding updates.

And hopefully it won’t be something like, “now you can’t report at all and no one can post anything except these specific words” or something crazy like that.

Maybe so, but this is ultimately untenable.

There is a finite number of moderators with a finite number of hours to work vs. and effectively infinite number of internet jugheads with effectively infinite time on their hands.

Ultimately… people want an easy way of saying “I dislike this” without having to put any effort in. People will always want that. Blizzard’s explained their reason and rational for removing dislikes, but… this is what it leads to.

I say, bring back dislikes, separate them from likes, don’t bury disliked posts, and false flagging will wane. No, it wouldn’t stop all bad operators, but nothing will, and “it’s not perfect” is no excuse against “this is better.” It would give an easy and simple release to the urge to abuse a system that doesn’t provide a desired feature.

The forum techs probably haven’t gotten to that page in the forum software documentation yet. Like with the random selection of toons the software chooses every time you logon. :rofl:

Trolling is adding little extras to just your opinion which are little digs at the person, their idea or what not. If you just stick straight to your opinion people aren’t likely to accuse you of trolling.

I have no idea why you think this is an improvement over the other - spamming/trolling last time I looked it still a violation of the CoC and that is what you seem to want to remove as an option. Creating duplicate threads on existing topics used to be consider spam and that is very often where threads like this one could be reported for.

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It’s not removed. It’s under Code Violation - against CoC. It’s just not a separate “post is upsetting” choice, so that people don’t nonchalantly use that excuse and so that they actually read the CoC.

The entire point in revamping the choices wasn’t to take away choices. All of those are still there in the CoC. The point was to make the choices look more serious, add a couple we used to have that were separated out on the old forums, and make sure people understand the severity of using “report,” instead of “flag.”

All of the CoC reasons to report a post are still in there.