PSA: Flagging is NOT the replacement for downvotes!

I see people complain about the lag in this game. I don’t experience it, so does that somehow negate what others experience? You not seeing abuse of flagging doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

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No, that isn’t what I said - I said it wasn’t a problem.

In any case, I am pretty sure I made myself clear enough, regardless if anyone agrees with me. It is up to blizzard to decide what, if any changes need to be made but I don’t think it is a problem that requires a system change. If there are a handful of individuals who are abusing the system, it makes far far more sense to just handle those individuals which I think was what the blue post on this subject indicated the direction they want to take is.

Whole bunch of comments just disappeared, wonder if someone went through spam flagging

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I think it was more the mods wanting to keep things on topic and let us discuss productively. I appreciate it. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Thanks Rhielle. I had to serve a suspension and I petitioned to find out what I had said that was against the CoC and they told me to read it and figure it out myself. They could not point out what in the post was against the CoC … Kind of a pathetic excuse with them saying they can ban anyone they chose without much reason.

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Adding this thread as another example of flagging abuse. Nothing was out of line. Nothing was offensive. Opinion stated and flagged into hidden.

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And they’ve also stated that flagging is for reporting stuff against CoC, not to be used as a dislike button, and will result in disciplinary action if it’s abused.

There is an issue, because that should never have been flagged into oblivion in the first place.

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But Blizz can take some steps to try to alleviate the problems. Which is why we were also discussing ways to fix the reporting functions to hopefully help. :slightly_smiling_face:

Fair, which is why I deleted my posts. I’m just not sure that showing examples of misflagged threads helps at all; it just seems like it would breed negativity from those inclined to be … less constructive about forum moderation.

A few people have asked for evidence of this stuff happening, which is why we have been pointing them out. Thus far, it hasn’t been an issue in here. :slightly_smiling_face:

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Whoops. I’m dumb. Sorry, ignore me!

LOL you’re fine! :blue_heart:

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Yes, it is; we can scroll up and read, dear. so should you.

If nobody agrees with you(and nobody is), then ‘clear’ your statement was not.

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Perhaps, one day, you’ll learn that it is not a personal attack, when you are disagreed with.
nibbles a water biscuit

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I’m surprised they’ve even implemented such a system in the first place. It’s far too easy to abuse. Just look what happened to Lydon’s High elf thread a couple of weeks ago. It was constantly getting flag bombed to a point were it was getting locked almost instantly the moment the thread re opened. A playerbase, especially one that can be as toxic as the wow community, should never have this much power on the forums.

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The moderators do read the threads that are flagged and will actively take action against anyone purposely using the flagging system as a downvote/censuring tool. They know it isn’t designed for that and do make sure that those that abuse it also end up understanding. They aren’t able to convey to us when they make those decisions though for the same reason we can’t name and shame on our end.

And this system is in its infancy with the WoW players. It’ll require some adjustments over time I’m sure to make it less abusable on our end and easier to review on their end. Introduction to Discourse as forum software is a start. Bornakk acknowledged the issue in a post as well.

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They have been active on that today, numerous amount of threads that went buried resurfaced again so at-least they’re doing that. I would like to see a change in the system so it doesn’t get automatically buried, instead it just brings about the attention of moderation to act on it.

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Don’t forgetto mention they should bring back the text box with the option to explain why you flagged it in case it isn’t immediately clear.

Like if the user’s name or guild name is massively inappropriate, it’s still something that should be flagged as it’s being posted with on the forums, and before they had that option but it was removed, and now it’s gone, and without the ability to explain “Oh hey, this person’s name is severely inappropriate” if you get a GM that had a long day and is just down to looking at post content, they might skip it and assume it was a false report.

Then there’s other reasons, like explaining WHY something is harassing, like if someone has been stalking you through multiple threads to harass you. They won’t often check that, but if you have the ability to tell them that, they can indeed verify that and take action.

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Agreed. All we can hope for is that they take our concerns under consideration and maybe tweak some of the wording in their coding to try to help this issue.

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That is a good point! I’m not sure if this system allows for that ability, but no harm in asking!

I think in this case people were flagging as spam as a High Elf topic already exists. I’m not saying I agree with spam flagging it to the point it locks as soon as a MOD unlocks it just pointing out why it may have been flagged in the first place