You don’t recall them saying they aren’t changing the 1.12 data? Kind of eliminates dual spec.
Meh. I was originally a full-on pro-changer. But, tbh… Give me the Vanilla world, classes, talents, races, quests, etc… But with right-click reporting (and auto-squelching), adjust the chat anti-spam limitation to something tolerable, sharding in the starting zones for a limited window at launch, and PvE servers(because screw PvP), and I will be content.
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You are akso talking about a demo that they already admitted wasnt even an accurate representation of the finished game.
With that philosophy then lfd is a sure thing as well as 200% baseline crit for casters.
Oh okay, so you’re 100% confident the updated water, dynamic shadows and animated vegetation will be removed from the final product.
Or maybe, just maybe… you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I also understand the fact that they said almost a year ago the were having stability issues running the old graphics in the new api.
Maybe you aught to do a faint amount of research before you start spouting off nonsense.
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What nonsense am I spouting? Rofl. You’re claiming they’re not making any changes besides
and I give you examples of graphical changes on the demo, what is it then? Is Blizzard making the graphical changes I listed or are they going to remove them from Classic before it launches? Answer the question.
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We can only hope. I know at Blizzcon they said they’re still working on the shaders to capture that Vanilla look. I made a thread about the water effects and why I think the original should be the only option. Perhaps the newer effects were only in the demo because they’re holdover from the 7.3.5 client and Blizz hadn’t removed them yet. Time will tell.
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Time will tell, indeed.
Make sure you stay frosty till Classic is released. Don’t lose your marbles before that.
edit: at least don’t lose them again
Reading really fails you doesnt it.
Did they say they were having stability issues back in Jan with the graphics? Yes
Did they hire someone specifically to fix the issues? Yes
Did they say they were not interested in changing anything that did not affect stability and security? Yes
Did the say the demo was just a demo and not an accurate representation of the finished product? Yes.
Is there a possibility the upgraded graphics are there soley to stop the game from crashing that they already said they have a problem with? Yes
You obviously are demanding an answer to a question that nobody other than blizzard has an answer to. I don’t and you most certainly do not.
But because it was in the demo it has to be true and regardless of the fact they said they were having issue with stability in regards to graphics in classic they changed it in the demo so all change is acceptable
Your issue is, any who does not agree with your changes are in your opinion the dregs of the earth and you refuse to accept anything anyone says contrary to your opinion including blizzards.
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Personal insults are for cowards.
Your argument is now “The Classic demo obviously has updated water, dynamic shadows and animated vegetation because of stability issues”.
You’re just trying to put yourself into a position where you can’t be wrong. If Classic launches with the aforementioned graphical enhancements, you’ll just claim it’s because Blizzard couldn’t remove them from the 7.3.5. code without causing stability issues. If Classic launches without them, you’ll claim the demo wasn’t finished and they were obviously going to remove those options.
You really can’t believe they’d include those changes because they wanted Classic to have some optional, minor graphical enhancements? Maybe we’ll get an answer in the coming months and we’ll see which one of us is right.
It isnt an insult if it is a fact.
Again i have not said anything that blizzard has not already said.
It is not a matter of what you, I, or anyone else thinks.
You must of completely missed it when i have stated several time on both forums that i have no issues with improved graphics and the only thing I have an issue with is new character models and animations and that I will play with the newer graphics.
I could dont honestly care one bit if they up the pixel count and fix the shading. In fact I have said more than once i think they need to.
All i did was recite what blizzard stated at blizzcon. You have an issue with that. Yet again I explain this and yet yiu still cannot graps they actually said this. I hate youtube links but if i really need to find one I will since you apparently have not watched 1 video about classic from blizzcon.
You are just attempting to justify all of your wanted changes on “minor graphical improvements”
lol… GM intervention doesn’t count as loot trading. That’s not a legitimate argument at all.
Not even remotely true… Blizz told us precisely why it was removed. The bone structure of the original character models could not be updated with the new spell animations that they rolled out. They were not compatible, and Blizz has not been able to make it work.
They removed some of the races models first and eventually removed the toggle altogether.
You’ve been less than truthful on this forum, so forgive me but I’m going to need a source for your claim. I’ve seen videos on youtube from a certain forum poster that has edited in the old models into retail and they perform the new animations just fine.
Source for Blizzard stating exactly why the toggle for the old character models was removed, please.
I have never been untruthful here… get over yourself. Find your own sources, I am not your personal Wiki. If its that important. do the work like the rest of us did.
But, since you are so lazy and the Legion Alpha forums no longer exist you will need to actually read:
www dot mmo-champion dot com/threads/1980434-Blizzard-removing-Vanilla-Animation-from-Old-Models
Cant post links, so edit that.
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You’re just rambling on now, I don’t even know what point you’re trying to make. All I’ve said is, Blizzard hasn’t outright said that optional graphic improvements are off the table and contrary to that, there’s at least some evidence that we may get some at Classic launch as they were present in the demo.
I don’t know why you’re so confrontational, it’s actually a bit unnerving. I’ve asked Ysithens if he could post and clarify whether the non-vanilla graphics improvements in the demo will be there going forward and if other optional graphic options are still on the table. I’ve watched the Blizzcon videos multiple times and they never mentioned the graphics, so stop trying to force a statement that Blizzard never made down my throat.
You tried to say that Vanilla nights are far darker than BfA nights and you linked a screenshot of you using the Inky Black potion ON BFA and claimed it was Vanilla WoW.
You then went on to say that the Blizzard developers confirmed the Inky Black potion brings nights back to Vanilla level, which is another lie as they’ve never said that.
You then went on to post a fansite as proof of this claim:
All the while ignoring all the screenshots and video evidence that was posted, comparing BfA and Vanilla WoW nights. I’d say all that is more than a little bit untruthful of you.
And I also linked proof that the level of brightness was intended to be Vanilla level. Oh yeah you forgot that part. Just stop.
Your trolling is absurd, BfA nights and Vanilla nights are nearly identical in every zone. That’s a fact you’re just going to have to accept. You’re the only person I’ve ever seen Blizzard outright threaten to ban for excessive trolling, act your age.
Ive already proven otherwise. Dont ask for proof if you refuse to do the work. The only troll here is you. I get it you cant admit you are wrong. Life goes on.
Blizzard CS just doesnt like to be told they are wrong. Trolling accusations are just how they shut people up. Again, get over yourself.