And? Group content should be group content. Can’t form or find a group to do what you want, pound sand.
Pro tip solo queuing in a BG still lands you in a group.
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Look, I get that you’ve got a handle on some preddit-tier arguing in bad faith and all around general intellectual dishonesty, but it’s all so tiresome
Eh.
Instead of the r word I’d say whichever team has more people willing to listen/follow directions and play to the objective will generally prevail.
That is my experience anyway for what it’s worth.
I get I might be unusual as I don’t generally solo queue since it’s more fun, even in a loss, to play with friends.
We also have Yakety Sax queued up to lighten the mood when things get … weird.
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You still haven’t explained why separating premades and pugs isn’t a win win for everyone.
I have. Numerous times, in numerous threads. Every single one of them you bring up some complete falsehood as a defense or you dip from the thread entirely. You know this, I know this, everyone who has read these threads knows this.
Simple as
You know it, I know it, everybody knows it. Bigly!
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You clearly havent tried to find a premade as mage or ele shaman have you?
You basically said people who solo queue are bad people and you don’t want to play with them.
That’s fine, separating the queues gets you exactly what you want.
Win win for everyone.
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They know it, that’s the obvious solution, but they logically don’t desire it…
If premades are a way to remove “trds” from the equation, (like it was stated before), and a way to play with like minded people, just make a separate queue for them and all would be happy.
But they know if that happens, that the great majority will just farm their way through solo, or 2/3 friend group queues.
The irony, is that this people spend entire xpacs demanding more complex socialization metas and more difficulty, to end alone and staring at each other in capital cities, while the “trds”/pugs/casuals moved along, long time ago.
The success of SoD relies on applying the vanilla successful base formula to end game simplicity, easiness and both casual/guild friendliness. The instanced pvp, clearly went the wrong way and could easily become a splinter in its success.
I main ele.
Premades not taking 1 ele or mages do not know what they’re doing and I caution you to join a group refusing a mage or ele (dispels) (peels/flag assist pick)
I don’t actually think they’re gonna separate the qs. I would be VERY surprised if they did this.
They may just run a grouping size algorithm, to where pugs get lremades less frequently depending on the present variable’s available in q. With how many premades will persist in sod (because they’re stretching r14 to aq40) an algorithm may do just fine where pugs encounter them way less
I played roughly 10 wsg tonight, between 4-7 players in my group queueing, we won all but 1 game vs 6 premades, anyway every single game we faced a premade, our pugs had to be convinced to play, the lost game all 3 of our pugs hid on the roof at the start of the game as soon as they realised it was a premade, we lost 3-1 in 49 minutes, we got owned in the initial team fight and lost all of our boon buffs which put us insanely behind. The willingness to give up immediately is everywhere, there’s no way pug bgs can ever be playable with these players
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Sounds like such pugs need to be forced to fight such pugs. That way, the ever fearless never give up premades are liberated to face other fearless never give up premades! Glory and honor! win win for everyone!
I play Alliance in SoD, but I pretty much always look for a mage for premades, if I do them, and even recommend them to get Berserking.
.> strawman every post
I’m going to run your line of logic here, to a T.
You’ve basically said you want LFR.
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I agree. que should be max 5 man for solo, so you can play with friends. OR if you do que as 10 man, then you should always be matched with another 10 man.
Yes I literally would not care if LFR was added as an option, other people playing the game differently than I do when it has no impact on me doesn’t bother me.
That would double the chance for such epic socializations/enjoyment of the game if you were matched against similarly minded group pvpers by a semi competent matchmaker software that did not require separate queues…
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Since you always dodge the reality of countdown q-ing, the history of it, and classic as a whole, we’ll put it aside because like everything else, you’ve been patently and purposely false about.
Let’s say, in the world that will not come to be: you get separate q’s. Are you on board with premade vs premade gear itemization being heads above better than raid gear? I mean, after all. It doesn’t effect you, right?