Premades have completely ruined the PvP BG experience. Do something already

its called fun, its why some people play games you know

Fun at the expense of the other players experience. You can still play with friends, just not stack a bg with 30-40 people.

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the losers will always think ppl having fun is at the expense of the losers

haha

The losers are the players who have to stack bgs against randoms to win.

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We can just sit back and let them make our case for us.

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Yea, makes this topic easier.

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30-40 people bypassing the restriction on raid queuing are violating game rules.

Specifically seeking out a PUG who will be worse geared, less coordinated and have fewer quality players necessarily means you’re a bit of a loser.

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The joke’s funnier if you don’t explain it to them.

Seems like there’s sock puppeting going on, I’ve dealt with a lot of community members on the battleground forums and they’re no where near this bad. They’re acting more like botters where the smart ones stay quiet while the dumb ones advertise themselves as fools making it appear they’re worse than they really are.

I guess if my goal was to hurt them I wouldn’t point out how they’re hurting themselves with this behavior or how communities aren’t as bad as being reflected here. I wonder if it’s not syncers but some very low level trolls trying for a reaction. I guess I’ll leave it with something I’m fond of saying, it’s sometimes hard to tell the difference between dumb and mean because dumb people think they’re being messed with when they’re not. A little white trash wisdom.

And now the scaling is completely off and playing AV is a complete joke.

There is literally a blue post in this thread saying it’s not cheating lol

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They don’t like that post, it isn’t from the right sort of blue, or it doesn’t use the phrase ‘queue synching’, or it doesn’t say that they’re right. So it is wrong. Not them. They can’t be wrong.

I think they’ve driven pvp participation to levels where they can’t financially justify properly fixing all the glaring issues. For example RSS, which is the most popular form of rated, has a participation level of less than 3% of the overall player base. They’ll give us just enough and rely on sunken costs to keep us subscribed, maybe try to drive up token sales to justify what little investment we receive.

They’re probably using our subscriptions to work on the upcoming XBox port, at that point we’ll become even less of a priority than we already are. Things aren’t going to get better.

No there isn’t. There is a blue post saying queuing at the same time as someone else isn’t cheating.

Yea, just like you don’t like the post about pug stomping.

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The post is about addons automating the process, which were broken.

That it mentions pug stomping is of no concern for me.

The post is about the integrity of the game.

It mentions more than one thing, both that addons were compromising it, and that the spirit of the game was being belittled by organized groups using it as a way to by pass wargames and rated queues to pugstomp unsuspecting random teams against the modes intent.

You have made it very clear that context goes so far over you head it may as well be in space from your vantage point, but now you admit, openly, that you are just trolling.

One more disingenuous, bad faith troll for the bin it seems.

You aren’t here to have a discussion, you aren’t here to even pretend you are.

Are you selling services for this?.

Do you host RMT as a means of income to support yourself via the Random queues?.

Are you a “streamer” as this kind of terrible behavior is quite common among the e-begging community?.

I’m not seeing any other reasons, logically, why you would go to such extents and lengths to be so willfully obtuse, underhanded and outright dishonest to strangers on a public internet forum otherwise.

Though at least I won’t have to see it anymore going forwards.

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Nope, just a member of a couple of communities.

No one that I know sells anything from them, we’re just like minded players who enjoy epics.

Which is what premades do…

It’s good to be in a group!

Back in the day, there was an add-on that let group leaders queue together for premade Alterac Valley. I thought the new queuing system would have put an end to those add-ons. I’m torn on premades—on one hand, if you’re a hardcore PvPer, queuing with a group helps teach the fundamentals needed to dominate rated battlegrounds. But on the flip side, it disrupts the experience for casual players.

It’s one of the things that they do. It’s quite a logical leap to take a statement on how it’s OK if people queue at the same time, which wouldn’t really be enforceable even if they called it cheating, to the present situation where they drop queue until they have a significant number in the same BG disrupting play for people not even in their BG and some even sending in a player to make sure they’re fighting against the right type of players which means either friends they can win trade with or a random group of pugs they can dominate.

It’s also a stretch to say it means it’s OK having several communities that do that for hours each day disrupting not just a few instances but the entire system.