Isn’t that kind of the point of a video game? Log in and enjoy? You want to raid, log in and raid. You want to farm cosmetics via a rep grind, go ahead. You want to PvP, go PvP.
What’s not healthy for the game is this insistence in endless chores. Like if people had to watch an hour documentary every two days on Netflix before they could watch the show they actually wanted? Netflix subs would look like wows sub numbers
I really like Preach and his content. It was really tough to watch his videos through. He was so…defeated, let down, disappointed. I genuinely felt bad for him. I really liked Preach’s easy going nature and happy go lucky out look on life and the game, he would fit in well in Australia. Hell I would even buy him a beer or 2. Hopefully he can find something to move on to that will ignite his passion like wow once did.
Asmongold. I do not really like his content. something about him just gets on my nerves. But I can respect the guy for severing ties with the game he also was very passionate about. It was clear in the videos of his I did watch he loved the game. There was a recent serious video he made I actually watched right through and fir the first time I actually…I want to use a different word here that eludes me, so I will say I enjoyed it a little more than his usual content. I also wish him well in FF14.
I know they will both have success in whatever they do. Like them or not. They both produce great content for the people who like it.
brutal. not the poster i was expecting to make that kinda post, let alone the first reply
Oh hey etch. Sup?
Or, hear me out.
If you aren’t happy, YOU stop playing.
Stop telling other people they aren’t allowed to enjoy the game because you aren’t, or because some over-rated streamers think so.
Lets be honest the real reason why Preach and Asmongold left for FFXIV is because according to FFXIV streamers are basically deities and they must do EVERYTHING in their power to make sure those streamers have a good time even if it is to the detriment of other players.
Mark my words this is going to hurt FFXIV in the long run.
what gave me away?
hey, you. unusual circumstances. you worked that avatar like it was a shakespeare masterpiece. i like.
I feel that streamers are important to the early growth of a game. It’s massive free advertising.
But for a 16+ year old game like WoW? I think the impact any given streamer has is less than it would be for, say, something like Ashes of Creation as it approaches release.
To be clear I’m not saying there’s 0 impact, just that it’s less than some folks want to pretend.
When has Wow been big dollars?
Considering Square banned dozens of people for having the audacity to show up in-game where Asmongold was… yea.
Sad to see Preach go. But Asmonggold I don’t give two *#&@s what he does. If that hack isn’t making reaction videos to other WoW creators on Youtube, he’s whining about store mounts, or his never ending crusade to harass and dox of Madeline Roux.
For that Asmonggold can go to hell.
streamers are also a form of new players gouging interest in wow and without them streaming and making video, new player counts are going to be dramatically lower.
The store mount point is legit tho, no reason a B2P and S2P game should even have store mounts, let alone a transmog.
Exactly they are going to create an environment where the majority of players are not fans of the games but fans of the streamers. In which case the game becomes a house of cards as its only a matter of when those streamers decide to move to another game and their fans go with them.
But if you join a game because a streamer you like plays the game are you joining the game for the sake of the game or the streamer? And if the streamer you like leaves the game are you going to stick around or are you going to follow the streamer and his pack of followers?
Point is WoW built its community long before streaming became mainstream. Some may have forgotten that fact but I have not.
They make the game look decently fun so some would be like “that looks fun, I should give it a try”, no different then an ad or youtube review.
And yet they charged them for reasonable prices. Where FFXIV charges as high as $35 for theirs (less than half are account-wide), they sell emotes, transmogs sets ( and some are gender locked), paint dye for Christ sake. All that and the XIV community is pretty chill about.
Meanwhile I got to put up with nitwits in this community like Asmonggold for so much as when a store mount goes up for sell.
Yes they will join but will they stay.
Games like FFXIV and World of Warcraft do not survive on people joining and then leaving after a few days …
Also streaming these days is rarely raw video …it is staged ahead of time or edited in a way to get the streamer the most views and likes as views and likes = money for them.
And if FFXIV is doing a lot for streamers then of course those streamers are going to show the game in the best of light. However once people join and they get a peek behind the curtain will they stay?
And if they don’t they will likely go to media of their own and complain and soon the only ones left will be those so devoted to the streamer they do not even carte what the game is like as long as their streamer plays it.
To be fair all their mounts fly there and 1 can carry 8 people, another can carry 2 that I can think of right on the top of my head. One also has a hidden effect(Cloud’s bike). But incase you didn’t know, Yoshi-P isn’t in control of the store. They basically gave him full control of FF14 for everything BUT the store, that’s handled by someone else entirely and Yoshi-P himself said he’s afraid of her ways 
. He does his best to get as many mounts into the game as he can and avoid the store thought, but when SE says “new store mount!” he can’t do anything.
The fact that this was your takeaway is truly astounding. Bravo.
lol I love how this exactly describes the feeling of levelling an alt right now
Why is it so important what YouTube streamers do or say?
They make their living from donations from us and by marketing MANY different products.
They’re livelihood doesn’t stem from World of Warcraft 100% of the time.
Anyways…who cares?
They’re simply there for the entertainment value. They never had anything serious or in depth or absolutely essential to the value of the game that the developers couldn’t go on without it.