Wait WHAT? I like being called Champion 
Isnāt that how we are referred to now? Maybe Iām wrong I donāt go nuts reading quest text
it in the gameā¦ you lost ā¦ deal with it.
Harpy women are unattractive, amirite?
hateful people are unattractive yesā¦
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I shall only refer to use using neutral pronouns now to respect that, I hope youāre ok with this
I didnt know women dont have pronouns. How do you refer to a woman who doesnt tell you her pronouns?
It is going to be an option, and since day 1 of WoW weāve always had our character referred to with gender neutral terms by NPCs. Itās always āheroā or āchampionā or ācommanderā, nothing that actually gives our characters a set gender identity.
Could that change in Dragonflight with NPCs referring to us by the pronoun we choose? Yes it could, and if it does thatās going to be really important for some folks. For others, it may just be a way for them to use titles that are currently gender locked without actually changing how their physical model looks, for example, female characters getting access to the āLord of Warā title rather than the āLady of Warā title.
I imagine, by default, your pronoun will be selected based on your body type. So when this change goes live, your character here will be referred to as he/him and have all the male titles. You likely wonāt have to change a thing. But if you want to change it, youāll then be able to go to the barber shop and make that change to something else.
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Nice quote job, also you said you have no gender
So thats why Iāll only use gender neutral terms, seems kinda self explanatory
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He says, after having earlier cut off her quote to exclude her declaration of having a sex.
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Correct, I cut the point I was referencing, instead of whatever they did
Thanks for the W.
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That really isnāt the same at all.
It forces players who strongly believe that oneās biological sex determines oneās supposed āmaleā/āfemaleā status to play along with this new fad that oneās biology (or ābody typeā in this case) is actually separate from oneās āmalenessā or āfemaleness.ā That is, your characters are āmaleā or āfemaleā based only on your choice of pronouns in this new system, not the character bodies you chose for them.
As it is now, my characters with male bodies are undeniably male within the game world. They donāt simply identify as āmalesā to NPCs via some pronoun selections. It may seem subtle, but itās not a trivial change.
Now, using ābody typesā may make sense for a purely androgynous race that has no biological sexes, but for races that have always had two distinct sexes coded throughout the game itself, it doesnāt. As for the argument that Blizzard is adding more body types for the older races, those still could have been made sub-choices under the current male/female binary instead of throwing it out completely.
Regardless, a compromise would be Blizzard adding an option in the game settings that either (a) keeps character creation exactly the way it is now for all races except the new one in Dragonflight or (b) enables this new scheme of numbered ābody typesā and pronouns for those who want that. Then, everyone gets to use which system they want and feel āincluded.ā
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just another reason why wow is failing, and if DF further sinks the game I wonāt be surprised. WoW is not a fun getaway from RL anymore, its a in-your-face drama game now with some side addition of fantasy elements.
And on the note you made earlier of black skin thing, your comparing apples to oranges. Black skin was honestly overdue because its natural, and thatās cool. Am I going to use it? No, Iām not black, I wasnāt even born in the USA despite moving here. But Iām happy you and others got black skin, should had been a day 1 feature.
Then you have these āpronounsā that only actively came into existence not so long ago, back when revolutionary war and WW1 and stuff was going on, no one was going around ācall me pronounā, they were living life without technology working hard or fishing or w/e else they did those days developing America. This group has become more annoying over time now thought with the in-your-face pronoun stuff like people actually care who they donāt know, and now its being forced in our faces(us as in we who do not care about this hot topic) through a new ingame system that will honestly continue to be ridiculed for all of time
Notice the difference? One was natural and got added as a side option, not a ādo you want to make your characters skin black?ā upon login, the other is a forced NPC dialogue change for ALL characters and we have to go, for every character, to choose our preferred āpronounā because of a more recent artificial and unnatural movement.
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And thatās fine. Itās called keeping up with the times. People need to accept that society functions differently now to how it did years ago, and they need to move forward rather than insisting that everyone should remain in the past because it makes them uncomfortable to be confronted with things that interfere with their world view.
If society didnāt move forward then homosexuality would still be considered a crime, inter-racial marriage would be illegal, racism would be running rampant (just like during the days of the red menace and the yellow peril) and women would not have the right to vote or be allowed to work in what men considered ātheir industriesā.
This is just another step moving forward.
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I just assume this is the same thing as people from previous generations rebelling.
Lmao of all the unhinged posts, this one tickled me pink so far. So how old do you think language is? XD
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Which language to be exact? Earlier languages were more basic and structured to keep society going, like in Egypt, they talked yes, but it was mostly low workers who built the pyramids and were told to keep working or else and served the Pharaos, or Spartans in a constant state of war and keeping a strong society. Iām sure they didnāt have to deal with anything weāve had to. Ours is a special age because people could share feelings of the same type through the internet and it became big groups, without being in person.
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Eh, sometimes your character is present for conversations between NPCs, right? After allā¦if your character wasnāt present, the dialogue wouldnāt even exist since your character is how youād be seeing (or hearing, if we want to be ārealisticā) it!
Anyway, Iām not really weighing in with an opinion on having these options. As I said initially, I was just pointing out instances where theyād actually be reflected in-game!
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Ah yes, the good ol days where the average life expectancy was the ripe old age of 30. Those lucky fools didnāt know how easy it was not having to deal with scary things like pronouns! Calling someone a man or woman? What will they say next, that the Earth is round? XD
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So, me still seeing male and female body type only is wrong of me and a sign that Iām not keeping up with times? Lol
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Oh, itās special alright.
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