10/22/2018 12:52 PMPosted by
Ellowa
Spend time gearing up if you want to compete
Exactly.
This is how an MMO works.
Correct, at the end game gear should matter, not at the lower level brackets. The lower level brackets are meant to be a transition, not a stopping point, nor were they ever intended to be as such. Blizzard added experience off for the niche (read small) group of people who enjoy the content that they are currently leveling in and wanted to stay there. It was NOT intended to be used to stay in a battlegrounds bracket and farm those with less gear.
10/22/2018 02:46 PMPosted by
Myninja
10/22/2018 02:30 PMPosted by
Ellowa
I mean, you're pretty much agreeing with the things i'm saying.
Um, no?
Look, you sound like you want a FPS game.
An FPS game an a fantasy MMORPG are two different animals, so i'm curious how you came to this assumption?
10/22/2018 02:46 PMPosted by
Myninja
This is a MMORPG. Gear matters here. Only a brief period of time did gear not matter, and it was a disaster.
Define disaster? You mean when they put everyone on an even playing field by turning it to item levels and not gear levels? No, not really, if you knew how to twink then it was a complete non-issue.
10/22/2018 02:46 PMPosted by
Myninja
It's why it was scrapped after less than 2 years. I'd actually argue that gear still mattered during these times. For crying out loud, white rings were BiS until around level 60, because their ilvl was higher than any green, blue, or purple of those levels.
Exactly, so in fact it was less of a hassle for twinks to get BiS then then it is now. What made it HARDER on twinks was that procs, trinkets, enchants, consumables and such did not define the player so much as item levels. In fact, the majority of those items did not work, or had no bearing on the game at all so twinks had a harder time... or they just rolled survival hunters which were absolute terrors on the battlefield because they were hands down the most broken class... close to disc priests.
10/22/2018 02:46 PMPosted by
Myninja
What everyone should be arguing for, imo, is less gear disparity. And to fix the over-tuned items (such as Rammstein). Blizzard can accomplish that with the current system they have now. That way everyone can get queues. Just unbunch your panties and wait because Blizzard historically has never been in a hurry to fix low level brackets.
If you think Rammstein is the problem here, then you're not paying much attention. The brackets themselves are rife with tons of back peddling bads who just happened to have enough money to buy (or farm) their BiS and that makes a huge difference. You're pushing for less gear disparity and again you're not facing the primary issue. You keep falling back on the argument that if you want to compete in low level brackets you should spend days gearing up to compete in a battleground that you will level out of(or
COULD level out of) in less then a few hours.
The average player does not, nor should they be required to, have that time to sink into a disposable bracket. It's not fair to the player base nor should you think it is. Imagine a brand new player to the game coming along to give this game a try and giving pvp a shot for the first time. He queue's at level 19, a fair handle on his character, and is completely train wrecked by a level 19 twink who spams two buttons. This happens over and over again and there's a strong possibility he will be graveyard camped in that, or another, game. How is that fair? How is that fun? In truth, if that were me I would be discouraged from playing in the low level brackets and possibly pvp as a whole until I was maxed level because nobody likes to feel useless.
Twinking isn't a good example of the current pvp game, and it shouldn't be. When the Twink brackets were in effect, leveling in the battleground was more complex, fun, and actually was appealing to low level (undergeared) players because they had a shot to succeed. Twinking and griefing players in low level brackets was not (or God I hope not) what Blizzard intended, nor would I expect it of them.