Please revert back to Personal Loot / Here is why

It will. Blizzard has outright stated that it can happen under Group Loot.

Yeah, Blizzard literally confirmed this in their blue post. Where were you like 24 hours ago ?

I actually think that group loot is an objectively better system, as it can be functionally PL, or functionally ML depending on what the group wants it to be.

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Where in the post is this referenced? I’ve looked at the clarification post on how group loot will work and I see no confirmation of that.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/en/wow/t/changes-experiments-to-raid-rewards-in-dragonflight-season-1/1352473/23

It’s right here, its hidden pretty deep in.

Here you go.

Yeah that’s what I read, I don’t see the whole ‘loot that players can’t use is going to be dropping’ which is what Mardanu and Raiimir have said has been ‘confirmed’.

Dude you outright admitted it on the Beta forums and you get rightfully trashed for it.

It can never be PL.

While this does mean it’s possible for a bow to drop in a group without a hunter

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/changes-experiments-to-raid-rewards-in-dragonflight-season-1/1352473/23

I don’t get it anyway, are we pretending to have forgotten how Group Loot works or ignore how it works in Classic ? Like are we all noobs who’ve never seen this loot method before ?

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Right, so I stand corrected. This is something Blizzard should address and ensure that if there are no hunters, no bows can drop and vice versa.

Both can be true. I can think it’s a better system, and be enjoying the karma.

How is every single player rolling need on every single item they can equip that much different than PL in practice?

Yeah they should bring back Personal loot as an option instead of doing this dumb thing they’re doing once again.

No you don’t. No one in their right mind does. Everyone remembers the height of loot drama in HFC and Dragonsoul LFR.

PL doesn’t allow you to roll Need on multiple items from a single boss. PL doesn’t allow for completely unusable loot (ie, mail in a group with an evoker/shaman/hunter) to drop in the first place.

Nope, I think group loot is fine honestly. Just needs a minor adjustment before it goes live to ensure that there are no wasted drops.

With the new group loot let’s say I kill Boss A and didn’t get an item from the boss, could I kill that boss again and someone trade an item to me?

Yep.

Then use it in your groups. But it should just an option for people who are ready to deal with the drama of it all.

No, it needs to be optional. And frankly, it needs to be optional a la Legion : for guild groups only.

What no. That’s never been possible.

So you want Blizzard to remove Personal Loot, then make Group Loot act like Personal Loot?

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No, if you kill a boss for that week you are locked out of loot from that boss entirely until the reset.

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But PL VERY OFTEN gives loot to players who are never going to use it, and doesn’t let them trade it. Those are not different in practice

Now that’s just gaslighting. Who are you to tell me what’s in my head?

And ? So will group loot. Once your raid has cleared Heroic like 6 times, lots of loot will rot.

But they literally just removed all trading restrictions. Meaning they could just restore PL and that issue wouldn’t be an issue either.

Dude, you cried and played little victim and admitted you’re only defending GL now because of the “hate you got” when you wanted ML back.

Don’t try to play coy with me. I simply don’t believe in your good faith after your little stunt.

I want Blizzard to ensure that there are no wasted drops.

That’s it.

If there are no demon hunters in the raid, no glaives should drop, as only demon hunters can use them. If there are no hunters in the raid then no bows or crossbows should drop.

This is an important change because tier sets are also going to be dropping from these raid encounters, so no one is going to be happy if there are no shamans but shaman tier drops etc etc.

It’s a minor change that needs to happen.

Ultimately group loot is fine.

If you disagree, that’s fine, but you’re not going to change my opinion.

Quote me where I said that.