Yeah, but the developers aren’t the ones who should decide what we as players find to be the most iconic features of the class.
If you want the developers to decide, then the only thing we can do, is look to the actual historical design itself. And that design, since WoD, presented that ranged weapons were more iconic than pets were. Due to the introduction of Lone Wolf options.
Check the full definition of what a Gish Gallop is. You only quoted a part of it…
Specifically, the most crucial part here, for it to actually be gish galloping, the debate has to have time restraints. Of which there are none on a forum such as this one.
What I think he’s saying is that people who write long posts are somehow cheating at arguing because people don’t want to read and respond.
If you managed to write a long post that was somehow mostly filler about how butterflies look or the speed of an unleaden swallow and nobody noticed, okay, sure.
But there’s actual rebuttals in those long posts and people just don’t want to read them.
The Gish Gallop is the fallaciousdebate tactic of drowning your opponent in a flood of individually-weak arguments in order to prevent rebuttal of the whole argument collection without great effort. The Gish Gallop is a conveyor belt-fed version of the on the spot fallacy, as it’s unreasonable for anyone to have a well-composed answer immediately available to every argument present in the Gallop. The Gish Gallop is named after creationistDuane Gish, who often abused it.
it doesn’t have to be in an offical timed debate man, for it to be applicable.
But here’s the thing: I read at a pretty incredible rate, so I never had that thing where I saw a wall of text, threw up my hands, and said, “No fair!”
If someone reads slower than the other guy can write, I can see how it would have the same effect as a Gish Gallop.
You do know the whole purpose of the Gish Gallop is to drown the opponent in…well, what we wrote above, knowing that they wont actually have time to refute all arguments.
Yeah, sort of true. But a reply the length of what Bepples posts, or me sometimes, takes around an hour to type(even longer if the reply contains certain links/references).
I don’t know about others but it usually takes me around 10 minutes to read through such replies. There’s simply no way to type so fast(if you include time to make quotes, bring out source links/references, etc.).
Has nothing to do with it. The length of the post is determined by the number of players he responds to. You want him to make a separate reply for each player he responds to?
The whole purpose of the Quote-function is to allow us to respond to multiple posts within a single reply. While also showing who it is that we’re replying to.