Please reconsider your stance on retail/classic reward linking

[Matcauthon-steamwheedle-cartel (Matcauthon)]

seems the valorous is a little darker shade of green and gold too. at least to me.

[Lotsohate-kilrogg (Lotsohate)]

Yea they all have some differences, look at the warrior set they added blades to the shoulders and a skull to the chest. Along with colors being different its a nice update for WoTLK but I still prefer the original from vanilla.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Um, my point is, If I am putting time and energy into a classic server, those appearances should transfer over. This isn’t something that I’m going to duck out when I get something I want, but I do not speak for the masses. I only speak for myself. And I want to be proud of the stuff I earned, not just, again, run it on a max level to unlock something. No, project guilds aren’t the same feeling. This doesn’t change anything for anyone.

And btw, I’m not investing into transmogs. I like the concept of it for RP reasons, but again, someone like you doesn’t understand that. and speaking of RP, PEOPLE in classic would roll for items they didn’t need over someone who did for RP reason, don’t feed me that bull crap.

You earned and obtained them in CLASSIC, NOT retail.

You will be able to show them off in the game in which you earned and obtained them–CLASSIC.

You did NOT EARN or obtain them in retail. IMO, you are NOT entitled to have access to them in a game in which you neither earned nor obtained them.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

Most of what can be obtained in Classic can still be obtained some way in Modern WoW. For the things that are no longer available, who cares? Honestly, some things being unobtainable makes them more prestigious and that’s not necessarily always a bad thing.

I tried for months to get a Corrupted Ashbringer back in TBC, never got it. Oh well, that’s too bad for me, my life went on and the tiny bit of regret I feel is worth having an item in the game that those with it can show off to the nerds that never got it.

[Fesz-cenarius]

Yes I am aware of those, and again, I want to EARN those items. And why can’t have get them on retail, because you said so? So by that logic, if they do a wrath server, players can’t get the Undying title anymore because it was removed? as well as the wrath judgement off color items too?

Players would be able to get those things on that Wrath server, but they should not carry over to retail.

[Shimy-khadgar]

While I totally agree that these items carry prestige, most of the people with these items went back at the end of TBC and got them EZ mode before blizzard deleted content from their game

Edit

Essentially I’m saying that I don’t think it’s impressive 99% of the time because they got it after it was relevant.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

That’s true, I still have a bunch of stuff I got from facerolling Naxx at 70 (which some people claim was hard in T6 gear, absolutely false).

[Shimy-khadgar]

I wish I was smart enough to do that believe me… I wish I could go back in time.

Never even thought to do that, or that they would remove it.

[Katerina-mannoroth]

I Bet that you’ll see many other threads that have asked for this, but where shut down by the same people responding here and now, maybe a handful more that aren’t active anymore, but most definitely there were players on board with them too. And on a side note, they don’t talk on the classic forums because of talking to the same players, over and over and over.

While I’ll agree with 'the same players showing up to say no" aspect, it doesn’t address the 37 likes in support vs the 200+ likes shown in opposition. Just because others aren’t bothering to post(in large part because they know others such as “those people” are going to reply, or already have) doesn’t mean they’re not there.

[Enkki-eonar (Enkki)]

ok, so if you get raid gear, I do not want to see you afk in any major city to show off what you got, the same with any legendary, that’s “Self accomplishment” in your words.

Nice try. I see reading comprehension is not your forte, but rearranging and redefining words to fit your agenda apparently is. You’re funny … not the “ha ha ha” kind, either. YOU are the one that said YOUR self-accomplishment requires an inanimate object, no one else. You own that one all by yourself.

[Enkki-eonar (Enkki)]

So then if I do it in vanilla, and it transfers over, I should be able to show it off too right?

But it DOESN’T transfer over, as Blizzard has told you it WON’T. Your argument is circular, i.e. it doesn’t go anywhere.

[Stonespin-stormrage]

crossover

Thank you!

People who didn’t earn those items in vanilla don’t deserve the prestige of being able to use them on retail if earned in classic. I’m sorry to those who disagree, but it just wouldn’t be fair.

[Lyei-farstriders]

You really need to think of retail and classic as two separate things. Two different existences, two different dimensions/universes.

Everything in retail has it’s value based on the history of the game. If you allow classic to change things in retail you are adjusting the values of rewards/achievements. You’re going back in time and giving yourself things that potentially no longer exist.

It’s a different game. It’s a different everything. Retail and Classic should never be linked.

[Laeth-hakkar]

raises thread

Sorry if this had already been brought up in this 1,700+ post thread, but what about allowing specific items that are near endgame and aren’t ninjable? Like Quel’serrar and Rhok’delar and the like?

[Flech-lightninghoof (Flech)]

This thread needs to be locked.

[Fenixtx-barthilas]

Like it was stated at BlizzCon there will be no crossover in rewards between Retail WoW and Classic WoW. I don’t think there is any need to change that stance but I appreciate the post OP.

I think its fair to ask for an opportunity to earn those rewards again however I don’t think it should come at the cost of diminishing the rewards that players earned years ago and cherish. I think the opportunity to earn and have them exclusively on Classic is fair because its staying on Classic itself. I think any more crossover than that could be damaging and lessen the value or prestige of those rewards.

It’s a pretty solid philosophy at the moment that there will be zero crossover of rewards.

sorry blue might need to check your facts, apparently CE pets will have “crossover” between retail and classic, despite the “damaging” slippery slope it creates

[Laeth-hakkar]

Uh there’s not crossover there, the Vanilla pets are going to be in Vanilla.

[Datbubbledoe-bleeding-hollow]

CE pets were there day one of vanilla… get over it im not palying nice anymore when i see people having a baby fit over this you didnt get CE back in the day get over it move on in life and maybe be kind to someone you see with those pets. because we are dedicated to this game we cherish it.

[Seid-caelestrasz]

How many times have we been over this? Can someone just sticky a FAQ to the top of the forum?

It ruins the economy, encourages ninjaing, and we don’t want the game filled with people who are only playing because they want to hijack loot.

[Chapel-draenor]

This is a horrible proposal, you’ve outlined the issues, but you just want to ignore them for selfish reasons. The main argument against this is certainly not “sophistry” at all. This sort of behavior already exists in the game within certain systems, and would certainly reveal its ugly head in this scenario.

I’m happy with the fact that the team, even Ion, have reiterated that they understand the philosophy of classic and such systems like you’re suggesting will have no place.