what the hell is true progression in a re-release of 14years old game?!
if we talk about original wrath…the buff was added after 4x weeks of frostwing release, so if Blizzard will imitate that and since ICC got released in full content then the buff should arrive 8November.
it’s so odd to me when i see certain players getting so annoyed about what other players are doing/getting.
-if you care about your own personal guild progression “you can always turn off the buff to enjoy progressing without it”
-if you already cleared the raid then good for you why bothers about the million randoms outta there?
-why other players progression does matters to you? this game has tons of people and everyone play the way they wants, if you’re getting annoyed about other players getting gear because the buff helps them in 13years old game? Please go seek help asap.
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Welcome to the youtube algorithm, where stupid thumbnails get promoted so you have to do it or your video doesn’t get seen
TLDR: I’m dog at the game and can’t kill easy content without omega god mode active.
To be frank, chasing that carrot doesn’t really keep people playing. If they don’t see consistent progress they’ll just quit, and you’ll be playing by yourself
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That’s exactly what happened with Ulduar.
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Yes people were dropping like flies. At least ICC actually drops loot unlike ulduar.
Honestly ulduar has been by far the worst raid in all of classic for me. Nothing even comes close to that slog of a craphole
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TLDR: The only thing I’ve ever succeeded at in life is a video game and I desperately need to gatekeep the progress of others in order to maintain some semblance of self worth.
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I killed HLK on week 1 and i can say without a doubt this isn’t a fight for anyone but the top 1% (if even that, probably an even lower percent), its highly likely it will just frustrate people into not trying it fairly quickly, the boss is a total nightmare and is far harder than anything else I’ve seen in classic wow by a lot, 3 months is far too long but the rest of the instance is kinda easy, maybe specifically hlk nerfs
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I sincerely hope you’re trolling. We used to pug heroic lk every week on Warmane, and it was tuned up. It’s not a difficult fight at all. None of this content is.
That being said I agree that 3 months is probably too long. Any guilds that haven’t downed lk by that point will probably be bleeding members or disbanded altogether.
Uh huh.
All you’re saying is that private server got that wrong as well.
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this is like one of those youtube comments where they are like “yeah lmao heroic lich king died in 2 hours” and u go to their channel and they have a 4 hour long karazhan
oh warmane has a cash shop where u can buy full bis and it has a 30% icc buff, yeah that sounds very like the current situation
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So you’re saying that the 30% buff and a couple more weeks of gearing via prog would solve the issue of LK’s difficulty.
Sounds like we are in agreement then.
“so ur saying what you originally said” uhh yes i am
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I didn’t realize that “specifically hlk nerfs” and “let progression happen as expected” were the same thing. My bad.
you are in a thread talking about a 30% buff in 3 months, clearly that is too long, i offered a different solution to which you told me that you disagreed with and thought i was trolling because you “pugged it every week on warmane” then afterwards you somehow started agreeing with me
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Hmmm… looks like I said nerfs were not necessary and that 3 months was too long in the exact same post.
Almost like the fight isn’t difficult when you have the appropriate gear and a few weeks of practice, which is what I said originally.
I guess the only thing harder than HLK is reading comprehension.
but your qualifier for it not being hard at all is
A; Warmane, a server with a cash shop and a 30% buff
B; your own experience on blizzard servers (2/12 heroic)
you couldn’t kill rotface, i’m just telling you that you are wrong, HLK is too hard for most classic guilds with 0%, what chance do us mere mortals have when warmane specialists like yourself can’t do it
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HLK is too hard for most classic guilds with 0%, what chance do us mere mortals have when warmane specialists like yourself can’t do it
Again, you’re just agreeing with me. I said 3 months is too long. I said nerfs are not necessary. The idea that we should nerf content because you found it difficult the very first week it was released is ridiculous. Of course it was difficult without any t10 or ICC gear. That doesn’t mean nerf it.
And yes, I play with a casual guild now. We will still kill hlk without nerfs, and I’d like the opportunity to try. I’d also prefer a buff that can be toggled on/off to a forced difficulty adjustment via nerfs.
the % buff is the same as nerfs, it just targets 1 specific boss instead of the entire instance and waiting 5 months for it to happen, you very likely won’t kill him without a huge buff
Sure we will. Most of my guild did not play on private servers and has never seen the fight. All they need is more familiarity. Casual doesn’t mean bad, and this content isn’t hard.
Bring on the buff, but something you can opt into/out of is not at all the same as a forced difficulty adjustment.