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Funny, I can’t remember an expansion launch that was smoother than this. Not one crash for me. Zero lag. Just smooth sailing.
Why does everyone assume that people who got the epic edition is rich?
Some used gold, some got it gifted, some purchased it outright. But why is it always someone will assume someone who has the epic edition is rich?
You still have to pay $90 (plus tax) if you want tooo participate in early access.
It does not. There is no getting around the fact that if you want to play early access, you have to buy the Epic edition.
But there is no option to participate in early access without having to buy the Epic edition. Not everyone wants the extra stuff and just want to play the game.
It implies a different version of the game. WoW retail does not have this. The base, heroic and epic editions all give access to the same game.
And yet, you still have to pay $90 plus tax if you want to play during early access regardless if you wanted all those things or not.
WoW has always changed and a lot of those changes have been good. The difference with this is you literally have to pay more to play the same game as everyone else a few days sooner. And by the way, WoW was much better in the “good ol’ days.” There was much more focus on content rather than monetization.
You’re being disingenuous again. You’re trying to compare paying more to gain early access to simply doing what was required for the past 20 years to play the game. It is not hypocrisy to call out this bad marketing practice. A lot of players are not Ok with this and rightfully so. Having to pay more to play THE SAME GAME as everyone else just 3 days early is not something that should EVER be normalized for WoW or any MMO.
And they are allowed to be wrong, which you are.
They are not. They are very outspoken and apart from a few posts here on the forums I haven’t seen anyone else really defend this.
Cause they are about 30 something euro or 40 dollar richer than others.
It’s kind of funny seeing people scream “omgersh corporate greed” over $40 bucks to play an incomplete expansion launch for 3 days.
You guys have no idea what F2P games cook up to milk whales.
If Blizzard wants to pull this mess again, they need to consider flipping the script. Instead of Early Access and Expansion Launch, it should be Expansion Launch and Delayed Access. I would gladly take a discount on the cost of this mess to delay my access for 3 days.
Sorry I get a grim chuckle every time someone declares that the 22nd was the launch day to which I agree. Since I did not pay extra, people are trying to tell me the actual launch is the 26th. To which I say the 22nd is the launch the 26th is the first day I am allowed to play the new content.
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What’s incomplete about it? Levelling I assume works well, Quests badabing bada boom. Pathfinder achieve unlocked. Normal dungeons they are open. PVP apparently you need to be 80 to participate… in some. The only thing I see as being held back is Heroic dungeons and Mythic plus (I believe I saw Mythic 0 was an option) Did I miss anything? Oh delves to which I cannot access regardless so that is notany kind of issue.
Edit, forgot crafting also works just missing the weekly quests apparently.
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I don’t mean it like that. The official launch could be EA or not, what I’m trying to say is that for the first time I launched an expansion for the first time and I didn’t crash, disconnect or lag. And I’ve been present for the launch of every expansion, minus WOTLK and TBC.
'Bout the only legitimate complaint I’ve seen against Early Access. Though, this seems more of a big oof on Blizz’s part than Early Access, itself.
I did preface it with a sorry 
. I understand the legalese and your intent but what you said is true in a very real sense.
I find it despicable.
For 20 years, it was free to start the expansion with everyone else.
Then they just took it away and ransomed it back for $40, and made every effort to make it as lonely and tedious as possible to not pay up.
Then you’re not looking. It’s been explained a dozen times.
Some people are missing out on their guilds first run at the new content.
Some people can’t even hang in their friend group’s discord because too many people are sharing spoilers and those same friends aren’t available to play with them in anything else, so it’s extra alienating.
Some people are getting spoiled just opening social media or youtube.
Some people are getting mocked in trade chat when they say they have nothing to do at 70 because Blizzard turned off Awakened Raids, scaled Comp Stomp to 80, and dungeon and pvp queues are too long. Not to mention DF zones and Radiant Echos being much more empty.
And then some people have lives and jobs and kids and can only play on the weekends, but Blizzard set the "early access period for the weekend, meaning those people don’t get to start the expansion until NEXT weekend.
And, again, this is all over something that has been free to us for 20 years.
The launch of a new expansion is a major moment every time it happens in WoW for 20 years, and people have great memories of kicking things off with friends and family each time. But this time, it was ruined by toxic, malicious, greedy monetization that adds nothing to the game.
Early access didn’t add anything special or unique to the game. It just made the game significantly worse for anyone that didn’t give in to all of the pressures pushing them towards paying up.
Even if that doesn’t apply to you, if you call yourself a moral person, you should be outraged that some MBA that’s probably never touched a video game stuck their nose in and made the devs screw so many players over and introduce so much toxicity to the game just for a tiny bit of extra money.
Making the game feel empty and desolate, and making you feel isolated from your social circles, just to try to twist your arm into paying an extra $40 for an expansion is so maliciously evil that it’s not justifiable. Even in the most sociopathic of moral frameworks, like Objectivism, they say that decisions like this that don’t benefit anyone but a handful of people with power should be met with every player quitting and forcing the game to shut down.
Go away. You’ve been refuted and debunked and shut down on this topic repeatedly. It’s been explained to you in gross detail how you’re not a hypocrite if a game you like does something bad, and even if you were a hypocrite it wouldn’t invalidate your claims, and how many people might just be letting their sub expire and are telling people why on the forums.
You’re spewing a thought-terminating cliche meant to silence people instead of discuss a topic and you should be ashamed of yourself for that.
Oh, and it’s been shoved in your face repeatedly that not everyone criticizing the move just can’t afford $40. I’ve told you myself that I usually get deluxe editions but chose not to this time specifically because of the early access cancer.
$7 isn’t the deal breaker. The deal breaker is some sociopathic monster sat down and said it was OK to subject hundreds of thousands of players, or potentially millions depending on how many actually paid for early access, to all of the terrible negative side effects I mentioned before just to squeeze $7 out of players.
That’s monstrous. There was a kid in trade chat last night that mowed lawns to buy the expansion and was confused why he couldn’t play it, only to find out that he needed to spend ANOTHER $40 to buy the version that got to play this weekend. The kid was heartbroken in chat and the level 80s were mocking them.
THAT IS THE DEAL BREAKER. Someone in power at Blizz or its parent decided it was ok to stomp and trample and spit all over people like that just to make a quick buck.
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Would the OP prefer the next expansion just cost $70 for everyone, but everyone starts together?
Honestly don’t have the cash in my tight budget to pay 50 bucks to keep playing this game I already pay 15 a month for…now I gotta pony up another 30 to just play it on release date…geez
I see this. So much typing, wow. 
I’m not wealthy by any means, but not understanding the hoopla all the same.
I think the drama will be seen by Blizz and this’ll likely be the last EA. It’s a Kotick thing anyway and he’s gone now. D4 xpac does not have EA, if that tells you anything.
No duh! I said come Monday, 8/26, they will be farming heroics, which is when they open.
It’s not weird and I doubt he’s pretending. He wanted the mounts, pets, transmogs sets, and hearthstone effect that comes with the Epic Edition. Haven’t you ever bought a product that had more features than you wanted and then after getting the product you realized one of those included features made the product worse? Because I have.
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EA is only one small part of the Epic Edition, it includes a mount, a pet, 1 month game time, beta access, a hearthstone effect, 1000 traders tender, and of course EA.
Removing the EA won’t make the game cost more for everyone. Blizzard makes most of their WoW profits on subs which is a repeating $14.99 transaction. An epic edition is a one time $25 purchase, remember you get 30 days game time which is worth $14.99, so it’s worth less than 2 months of subs and only a fraction of the player base bought the epic edition for the EA. Pissing off players by adding EA might cause other players to stop playing an cause their sub numbers to go down which could lose them money, but we’ll see.
I just hope that if players cancel their sub because of EA that they write it in the feedback as the reason they canceled. This will allow blizzard to get the data they need to see if they lost more money in canceled subs than then they gained in increased Epic Edition sales.
I doubt he didn’t know prior to purchasing the $90 edition of the expansion, I think the people making these thread now are just fake and they know it. It’s just attention to help stir the pot.
and how does early access make WOW worse? I don’t feel like it’s made worse by early access… I don’t care if people are 80 already, nothing is open or available to do and I’ll be 80 probably on Monday when I get to sit down and play.