Please nerf Sunwell step-by-step

[Igorgos-blackrock]

lol the raid just came out and losers are already asking for nerfs??

[Eztbc-whitemane]

lol I killed 10/10 SSC&TK in the 6th week of P2. Sorry for disappointing you.

[Igorgos-blackrock]

Congrats.

Now get good for Sunwell, a resolved raid.

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

Most people aren’t even going to try it?

Ughhhh what lol

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

Tbf that’s exactly why classic is popular.

Everyone has access to the best loot because everyone can stand and hit.

Once they split raids into good / bad that’s where it goes south.

[Dreamsphere-westfall]

@Deathsbounty-area-52

This is a take I 100% expected you to be on a PvE server for.

Because being on a one sided PvP server is any different…

@Deathsbounty-area-52

“Sweat lord ptr”… Bro there are plenty of guilds who enjoy the challenge without ptring lol.

I enjoy the challenge for sure, but I don’t enjoy wiping because 5 or so less intelligent players can’t understand mechanics…and never will. Now i know there’s guilds out there that only take the best of the best, but its difficult to keep up with their schedule and they 100% force players to get on the PTR the day it drops and until the day it ends practicing the content.

@Deathsbounty-area-52

Typical classic Andy if it doesn’t involve standing still and hitting it’s too complex for ya .

Check my parses…I don’t just ‘stand there and hit things’. The nerf is for the players are in our guilds who can’t process more than just standing there and hitting one button.

[Zealous-arcanite-reaper]

The data is there, your interpretation and presentation of the data couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

Not everyone, and indeed the minority, are going to flip their schedules for the Thursday release of raid.

My raid doesnt, and we played it on PTR. So your ‘data’ says that yes, few people have cleared it, or killed the first boss but your conclusions are wrong.

Give it a few weeks before you try and make some kind of judgment…

[Tweakman-pagle]

Jesus CHRIST… can you just please leave my TBC alone? Please? It’s already getting cut short. Meaning nerf will probably come extremely fast. The fact people already making these posts… this is the one raid that was supposed to knock us on our butts, the notorious Sunwell! Just let us dreamers have our 10 seconds of that old challenge people spoke of. Please. After all… that’s THE ENTIRE POINT OF THESE DAMN SERVERS LOL…

[Dreamsphere-westfall]

@Tweakman-pagle

Just let us dreamers have our 10 seconds of that old challenge people spoke of.

So what’re you waiting for? Go do Sunwell.

[Deathsbounty-area-52]

Then replace the bad players if its that big of a problem.

Thats raiding 101, it takes all 25 people to pay attn and do their job. Study, and pay attn.

Its realllllly not that hard and you definitely do not need to PTR to get a hold of it. We didnt do a single second of PTR and we got 4/6 in 3 hours. Like, its absolutely doable, just dont be bad.

[Eztbc-whitemane]

@Zealous-arcanite-reaper

The data is there, your interpretation and presentation of the data couldn’t possibly be more wrong.

Not everyone, and indeed the minority, are going to flip their schedules for the Thursday release of raid.

My raid doesnt, and we played it on PTR. So your ‘data’ says that yes, few people have cleared it, or killed the first boss but your conclusions are wrong.

Give it a few weeks before you try and make some kind of judgment…

I agreed what you said. The first boss is easy comparing the last three. We may see over 30% raids killed it in the first two weeks. My point is unlike SSC & TC most raid can killed 8/10 in the first two weeks, average players may feel frustrated if they only killed one or nothing. So a step-by-step nerf will be better than one-time nerf.

[Zealous-arcanite-reaper]

@Eztbc-whitemane

My point is unlike SSC & TC most raid can killed 8/10 in the first two weeks, average players may feel frustrated if they only killed one or nothing.

Then they should get good.

We are not entitled to full clears.

[Dtb-faerlina]

If Wrath makes Sunwell SOOOO obsolete (You actually keep some BiS pieces for a while) then why are you waiting for a nerf? I don’t get it, you say the content doesn’t matter but you’re excited over a future nerf of said content

[Cowclassic-whitemane]

Nah, keep it tough so the whales have to max out their credit cards to buy gear through GDKPs.

[Manuredps-benediction]

Yes please.

[Griswald-trollbane]

Sunwell is not a hard raid.

It’s about as hard as a standard normal difficulty raid in retail. It’s not even heroic level. Let alone mythic.

It’s harder than LFR, but that’s about it. It’s also the hardest raid we’ll see for some time as most raids in WOTLK are super easy as well.

[Tridiak-barthilas (Tridiak)]

This is another post about getting the best loot with minimal effort.

[Chuhai-bloodsail-buccaneers]

@Dreamsphere-westfall

They should’ve just released it nerfed, but the sweatlords (who cleared it on PTR already) want to make themselves seem ‘prestigious’ by clearing it prenerf.

Absolutely not.

I’ve been waiting this entire expansion for something challenging and now we have it. I am in a semi-casual raid group. It took us our first raid day to kill Kalecgos. It took learning and practice, but we got it done. It was a very rewarding experience. I know many feel like I do.

[Ruroki-grobbulus]

@Deathsbounty-area-52

Then replace the bad players

But…but…Jimmy PBR is my friend, I can’t!

Then the problem people are left to fester so long all of the quality people lose patience and defect out of the guild and leave you so gutted you can’t even put together a 10 man.
True story, seen it happen.

Friends and family are cool and all but, don’t bring just anybody to prog.

[Cowclassic-whitemane]

I just want to point out the OP’s name is “Ez tbc”…

Guess it wasn’t easy enough