Agreed. And if they started incorporated the the choice nodes (like on the balance form or DF mounts) It could unlock a lot of diversity and freedom of expression with much less dev time. Likely relieving much of the pressure that causes folks to keep calling for the “mage tower” forms. I don’t think people really want those specific forms as much as something other than vanilla bear and a chance to put their own stamp on how they appear when playing the game.
I think druids need way more skins added to the game but I definitely do not agree with bringing mage tower skins back. I didnt even like the fel bear being added in.
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Ehh bringem all back. Most of the people that dont want it to come back are just apart of the toxic me first community of the forums anyhow. Listening to them got us shadowlands remember that.
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I’d be fine if they made them obtainable. I don’t even play druid, not even as a level 1. But I wouldn’t reward the weapon skins. Druids don’t have that many skins and these skins in question are so druid-ish and normal looking, that it probs feels bad. If people were asking for felbear, then no.
I would be fine with this on the Condition they created some kind of token/way of getting other forms you might be missing from old content. Such as the Saddle for the pvp mounts.
Because I can’t bring myself to Grind out Archaeology…and its only forms I’m missing.
if this was true for druid, druid had to have been ridiculously OP in Legion.
Though to be clear, you could get gear to make mage tower easy in legion.
it just was literally never greens (for anyone but druid, I guess.)
Citation: All mage tower skins unlocked on DK/Warrior.
I’m of the camp that exclusivity can be good but for the druid, it shouldn’t apply as much. There are thousands of weapon transmogs for classes that have their weapons visible at all times, so exclusivity can work there.
Druids already have very few options comparatively. So, making these forms available again is a great idea. OR if it hurts the exclusivity group so much, then just make MORE. I think that’s more important. For example, I want the lynx forms we see in Hallowfall right now.
I know they added the dreamsabers at the end of DF, but that’s not everyone’s flavor, so adding a few forms every expansion for a highly played class would make sense. Sometimes just simple forms would be great, not always ornate like the dreamsabers.
We should advocate for more forms as our number one priority.
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I think that’s really the answer. Considering the popularity of the class, Blizzard should just put some resources into cranking out new forms with each expansion. If we had new forms I’m pretty sure the whole controversy over old forms would die out.
The reason it keeps bubbling up is the lack of choices.
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Anybody gatekeeping old transmogs, forms, or mounts is really just being selfish at this point.
Those things matter to you. Great. You know what else is exclusively yours? The memory of doing it, winning the item, etc. Nobody today who gets those rewards can claim they did it when it was current content. “But the only way I can SHOW that to anyone is by my exclusivity!” So you admit it’s about showing off and not about what you experienced and were rewarded at the time. OK.
I had some of my greatest accomplishments in WoW during Vanilla and TBC. When the game moved past those and they were old content, I had the memories still. Players could go back and kill Illidan when they were 10, 20 levels higher than Black Temple… they can do it now during Timewalking… etc, and I’m cool with that. They’re not wiping my memory or retroactively extracting the fun I had back then.
Long story short… your accomplishments remain yours. The cosmetic aspect is just that. Let people have cool things. We’re only around for so long, so let’s all try to enjoy it.
If the devs can make the challenges scale, it’s purely about ability, not “I was lucky enough to play the game at this particular point in time.”
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Anyone whining about not being able to obtain old trransmogs, forms, or mounts is really just being a self-centered crybaby at this point.
I can play that game too.
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On this note, is there a guide/tool/addon that shows you which forms you have unlocked and where to get the others that are still obtainable?
I type this as I sit in a cave for 2 hours camping a rare (Mosa) with a 0.7% drop rate.
I am wondering what other forms I could still obtain with reasonable effort. I’d probably take completing the mage tower over doing this every day for 4 months.
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There is a youtube video with the code: lUjM02i4x5M
If the challenge is tuned to be in line with what it was in Legion, what exactly is the argument against making things available?
Other than “I played when it was live so that’s all that counts” ? Or maybe you’re also invested in NFTs so “digital exclusivity” does it for you. I guess there’s no helping that, but good luck with it.
I have the legion feral ones, and I love them. I have zero problem with other people getting them. Why should we gatekeep them when some people weren’t even playing back then. I could care less if other people have it. I say spread the joy. I’ve never been a fan of limited time rewards.
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It can’t be, so they shouldn’t be available. Blizz announced two years before they were going away to get them. If you didn’t play, sorry not sorry.
it 100% can be tuned to be in line with what it was in legion. you tune it to season 1 for the xpac and then you dont increase the difficulty with the next season so that like in legion if you cant do it when its hard you can steamroll through it in season 3 by out gearing it like most people did. other than druid i put in 0 effort getting them. i just out geared it and 1 shot it. hell 3 of them i did with over 3000 ping and 10 fps.
Time limited rewards are time limited… who knew.
doesnt make it any less dumb.
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But what about the people who would stay longer, and become part of the community, but get turned off by all the FOMO stuff? If you come in to game and see 100s of things you can no longer and will never more be able to get, that is incredibly demotivating.
This is how every MMORPG works.
Yeah, it would be great to get 1-3 new bear/cat forms with several tints every expansion.
I honestly think a lot less people would be going on about sparkle kitty and roid bear if we had more form choices.
While I personally don’t care if everyone gets sparkle cat (I got it when Legion was current), I feel it’s better to push for newer and better forms.
There are so many things Blizzard could come up that would be equal to or better than sparkle cat.
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