retail is for you.
Nah.
1.12, warts and all.
No just people who can see the bigger picture can understand what I mean.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
Vlorm: Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
lvl 58 with dubious gear… druid in mix of agi and int, hunter with spirit stuff, my shaman with an AC trinket.
at lvl 60 with items that make sense, killing van + 2 marshall won’t be such an issue.
Ziryus: Vlorm: Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
lvl 58 with dubious gear… druid in mix of agi and int, hunter with spirit stuff, my shaman with an AC trinket.
at lvl 60 with items that make sense, killing van + 2 marshall won’t be such an issue.
So? The hang ups are against the other faction in equally bad gear.
Vlorm: Ziryus: Vlorm: Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
lvl 58 with dubious gear… druid in mix of agi and int, hunter with spirit stuff, my shaman with an AC trinket.
at lvl 60 with items that make sense, killing van + 2 marshall won’t be such an issue.
So? The hang ups are against the other faction in equally bad gear.
the hang up aagainst the final fight isn’t…
aka 30 people waiting in front of eachtoher general but not willing to engage.
Ziryus: Vlorm: Ziryus: Vlorm: Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
lvl 58 with dubious gear… druid in mix of agi and int, hunter with spirit stuff, my shaman with an AC trinket.
at lvl 60 with items that make sense, killing van + 2 marshall won’t be such an issue.
So? The hang ups are against the other faction in equally bad gear.
the hang up aagainst the final fight isn’t…
aka 30 people waiting in front of eachtoher general but not willing to engage.
You realize when there’s 30 players on the other side you can’t just run in solo right? The stand offs end up as drawn out chicken fights where people try to bait the other side into leaving their group.
That is entirely authentic to vanilla.
If 1.12 is the least accurate representation possible then this is a problem for classic.
Just a problem for you. The rather loud minority. Even stating that 1.8 is the most “authentic” is your oppinion.
This release looks fine to me and I for one am exited to get in there.
But then I am a carebare. BUT. . This very toon I am writing you from spent MANY MANY MANY hours in AV I will spend many many hours in it again.
You do not speak for everyone, nor do I. But this is the patch that Blizzard has decided to go with for many reasons. Just be thankful we get it at all.
Thanks
Vlorm: Ziryus: Vlorm: Ziryus: Vlorm: Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
lvl 58 with dubious gear… druid in mix of agi and int, hunter with spirit stuff, my shaman with an AC trinket.
at lvl 60 with items that make sense, killing van + 2 marshall won’t be such an issue.
So? The hang ups are against the other faction in equally bad gear.
the hang up aagainst the final fight isn’t…
aka 30 people waiting in front of eachtoher general but not willing to engage.
You realize when there’s 30 players on the other side you can’t just run in solo right? The stand offs end up as drawn out chicken fights where people try to bait the other side into leaving their group.
That is entirely authentic to vanilla.
meanwhile on beta people are rushing to eachother leader, very few bother backcapping, and people aren’t afraid of the 2-3 people standing next to van/drek, but are afraid of boss + 2 marshall… showing that even when there’s no incentive to grind honor and despite people claiming they want long drawn-out game filled with PvE… people still rush to the end without hesitation.
now, if you could make an actual logical argument as to why 1.6 AV should come back when people behavior indication they aren’T interested in it, despite what their words says… that’d be nice!
A big difference is that to get the weapons you need to wait for the troll to spawn and kill him thats enough time for both sides to get bogged down and will make it easier to stall the other side by taking them out while they are killing the troll. Plus the mines and stronger NPCs will wittle away a zerg and they will be easier to stop with less people. When the zerg gets halted they will be forced to stop the other sides zerg and you have a reason to summon the elementals and riders ect…
Also if there is no difference in your opinion why not give us the bigger version with more stuff in it? If its just gonna get rushed anyway. Then theres no problem for the ones that want to zerg it and get their rep and never come back.
Ziryus: Vlorm: Ziryus: Vlorm: Ziryus: Vlorm: Brokenwind: Vlorm:but if the beta showed us one thing
The beta shows us nothing relevant to how live will be with the honor grind and MoHs in place. There is zero incentive to rush the beta AV.
yet, people are still rushing, even if there’s no incentive.
And those rushes are also failing.
lvl 58 with dubious gear… druid in mix of agi and int, hunter with spirit stuff, my shaman with an AC trinket.
at lvl 60 with items that make sense, killing van + 2 marshall won’t be such an issue.
So? The hang ups are against the other faction in equally bad gear.
the hang up aagainst the final fight isn’t…
aka 30 people waiting in front of eachtoher general but not willing to engage.
You realize when there’s 30 players on the other side you can’t just run in solo right? The stand offs end up as drawn out chicken fights where people try to bait the other side into leaving their group.
That is entirely authentic to vanilla.
meanwhile on beta people are rushing to eachother leader, very few bother backcapping, and people aren’t afraid of the 2-3 people standing next to van/drek, but are afraid of boss + 2 marshall… showing that even when there’s no incentive to grind honor and despite people claiming they want long drawn-out game filled with PvE… people still rush to the end without hesitation.
now, if you could make an actual logical argument as to why 1.6 AV should come back when people behavior indication they aren’T interested in it, despite what their words says… that’d be nice!
What the hell is going on with this?
Please keep 1.12 AV … its fun and fine.
Why not have a special event where we get 1.5-1.8 versions? That way everyone can experience both versions.
How is it no changes? It was literally part of Vanilla.
Ah great here comes the troll
What? So let’s ignore human nature. Good luck with that.
Absolutely wrong, in every fathomable way.
A big difference is that to get the weapons you need to wait for the troll to spawn and kill him thats enough time for both sides to get bogged down and will make it easier to stall the other side by taking them out while they are killing the troll. Plus the mines and stronger NPCs will wittle away a zerg and they will be easier to stop with less people. When the zerg gets halted they will be forced to stop the other sides zerg and you have a reason to summon the elementals and riders ect…
Also if there is no difference in your opinion why not give us the bigger version with more stuff in it? If its just gonna get rushed anyway. Then theres no problem for the ones that want to zerg it and get their rep and never come back.
you are missing the point.
people aren’t interested in 40v40 PvPvE, despite what they say… this is why they are actively avoiding eachother in the current AV when there’s no reward to winning.
if people truly enjoyed the 40v40 zerg, you’d expect them to fight eachother on the field of strife, not avoid eachother.
Someday you’ll see the bigger picture. Hopefully its soon.