Sorry 2h sword not a polearm. So it’s relegated to likely second rarest sword after Ashbringer. So it’s a cool mog to show off with. Why does every item have to be a utility value. Glaives are worthless now but I still want to go farm some.
Good yes, but amazing is stretching it
I’ve heard the trinket will be kept but you’ll be replacing the rest quick
Sure, but this doesn’t invalidate the point. If your goal is to make the profession only used for long-term goals. Adding an item that has inflated value for a short-term make you fail your intended design. If they had made it a weapon with no short-term value it would be a great long-term goal. But since they also added a short-term incentive to the item they made archeology something that people do for short-term goal.
Again, they never did the same thing again with archeology. So that is a pretty good indication, along with ghostcrawler’s post specifically saying their intended design was to make it a long-term goal profession, that they considered the addition of gear that is good for a short-term a mistake.
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It’s inflated value for all of 1 week. The raid is opening on the 30th and then it’s good for 2 more hours after that. I mean sure if we want to fix it let’s drop the Ilvl to 330 so that it winds up about on par with 346 blue items so people can wake up from their brainrotted stupor and stop torturing themselves.
Yes, we obviously both understood that long ago. That is why they are short-term goals. And that was the problem. You are right if they did drop the ilvl it would have avoided all that foolishness happening. But they didn’t.
I assume the skeleton crew somehow didn’t realize this was going to happen and did nothing to address it. Now it’s too late to nerf the items without causing another outrage. “OMG I WASTE MY LIFE FARMING THIS AND YOU NERF IT!!!???” will be swarming the forum lol.
But personally I’d prefer that they did nerf it over doing nothing. I wouldn’t be upset about it. Though I have a bias which is I do farm them because I have nothing better to do right now, but I don’t spend as much time as others do doing it. And I haven’t gotten anything but the shield so far.
Of course, at this point my preferred “fix” is just a buff to the droprate or bad luck protection.
Also as a side note, I care more for the trinket and staff than the sword since I don’t main a spec that uses it anyway.
Oh lol, mentioning trinket…lol. Think about it…How is a trinket with no cosmetic effects ever a long-term goal? =)
#designmistake
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I don’t see the value in nerfing it now. Too late. The best thing to do is let it blow over and in 2 weeks all of this goes away. This is different now too where realistically it would be good pieces to springboard an alt into raiding. But with the near certainty of some sort of alpha/beta/gamma catch-up this doesn’t matter.
They where more worried about changing things that didnt need to be changed like taking away guild perks like mass summon mass res and cash flow. then fixing something that they knew was broken and really bad for the game for over a decade. Blizz doesnt care about the players and this goes to prove a point.
The value in nerfing it now is so all of us thousands of solves in can finally go do something else.
Nothing is stopping you but sunk cost fallacy and some insane thought that it’s mandatory.
I like to think anyone who is AGAINST blp…
- Got it early and they’re just selfish and dont want others to have it
- They’re casual at the game and their opinion doesn’t matter much anyway.
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if you would give up after 100k spent and 60+ hours idk what to tell you.
Well you chose who you deem has valuable opinion or not.
Here’s an interesting thought though. Most players should be casuals no? Do you think most casuals care about casuals opinions? I know some hardcore player who care about casuals opinion too but they might be in the minority for that group idk.
Do you think most WoW player care about casuals opinion?
Do you think devs care about casuals opinion?
Well whatever your thought is on all those questions. Likely not many people care about your specific opinion either. But I assume you don’t care whether they do anyway, because I sure don’t care whether random people I don’t know care about my opinion.
I would link you the wikipedia article on sunk cost but I don’t have the privilege level anymore.
I would guess neither of these things apply to me. Depends heavily what casual means. But there are plenty of people who are definitely not casual posting this sentiment. Because end of the day none of this really matters at all. If you’re hardcore you’re planning splits anyways and nothing matters until later on in the tier. If you’re not hardcore the raids going to open up and you can get better from it in 2 weeks. It really does not matter is the bottom line. But leave it to classic players to punch themselves in the head and ask why blizzard made them do it.
I kind of want to start a philosophical discussion around that reply but I guess I’ll abstain. It’s kind of off topic I guess.
I mean I think it’s very relevant. The person spent 60 hours and 100k. Where a fraction of that money and an even smaller fraction of time could likely buy them a week 1 weapon in a gdkp. Seems like horrendous ROI.
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I mean i’m just giving an estimate it was definitely alot more than that as of 5/9 I was already at I believe around 1000 solves and 416k gold by then down to about 350k right now so just this last few days i’ve lost 66k ontop of all of the gold that im not even counting from the vendored greys and those amount to over 30k themself since start.
And I spend about 10-15 hours a day digging depending the last few days haven’t been as efficient as i’d like but i’m also pretty much losing it mentally by now. I’ve already explained it has nothing to do with the item anymore as it means nothing since clearly it was just given out to a bunch of people that didn’t earn it, its the fact of the matter that i’m not ending without getting atleast something of value of this. Is it crazy? Yes but its blizzards fault.
I’m currently over 2.1k solves dual boxing it and now restarting one of them for the maximum cope to see if I can pull together enough voodoo to get an item.
I guess we can have fun with it whatever. I get what you say most people just keep doing it because they invested so much time in it if they stop they feel like it’s a waste.
This part the checkbox is ticked, but doesn’t the definition mention that abandoning the endeavor is more beneficial?
Then my question become what is the benefit you are aiming for?
If that benefit is sanity yes abandoning it would definitely be more beneficial.
But if all you reaaaaly care about is that tiny performance benefit no matter how short a time it will last. Well abandoning it wont bring you any closer to that goal won’t it. You won’t get any benefit by abandoning it since right now there is no alternative in which you could spend your time to get that sort of benefit.
the alternative is clear in buying a bigger and better P1 weapon in a gdkp for cheaper saving time and money. hell the opportunity cost is probably at least 100k as well if they had just sold the tokens they got from archaeology. he’s probably in way to deep to actually listen to the great advice of stopping and quitting while he’s behind. the weapon you buy (if we’re restricting ourselves to cheaper than 100k may not be bis but might be) will be good for 3 months instead of 1 week. and the weapon you get for 346 prebis will not be so much worse that it justifies this cost. marginal utility is an important concept here. the absolute utility may be greater but the timescale of being “ahead” for 1 raid and the cost do not math out well.
Well your logic seems sound if the person isn’t already rich or bound to a guild.
Though I guess they could lvl an alt with less time investment and get their stuff with the gold in a gdkp that first few week if they are bound to a guild.
Now for the rich dude though. Guy’s rich spending time making gold won’t benefit him towards his goal. Imagine! He can be glorious for 1 whole week. And there is no alternatives it seems.
I’m at 1,100 solves with no epic items.
I’m starting to think my character is bugged and I can’t get them.
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