This is kind of an issue though. Like in classic, you’ll have some people who spend months or a year helping their guild with bad look on items like rejuve or DFT etc but the guild ‘‘needs’’ to do lower tiers at GDKP to keep up with inflation (not closed circuit gold then either) and that long term person gets screwed over. Unless the guild is willing to buy the item as a HR, which often is several months of low tier GDKP runs to afford.
It really just ends up screwing over people out of favour, out of luck, who sought out a non-GDKP guild.
Think about it: the server went from having raw gold being generated by mostly bots to every player and bots pumping raw gold into the economy. Incursions were by far the worst thing Blizzard has come up with in classic.
Currently got a lvl 55 mage, have bought 3 epic items while leveling worth on average about 200g each. Skinning + Mining is very profitable. Regarding end game costs? I dunno, don’t really care much about end game in classic era currently.
The majority of GDKPs are organized via Discord. They do not advertise specific runs in game, only the existence of their discord with no further details. This is because they will have multiple active sign ups for different days/times and can’t post them all in game.
You’re only seeing the dog water pop up scam GDKPs operated by gold farmers, idiots and thieves.
Oh, you mean val’nyr/shadowmourne shards? right.
Yes, these are often pre-sold to someone in discord to ensure faster completed items rather than spreading around a few shards to lots of different players. It seems pretty obvious what the benefit of this is.
You will also see shards HR in MS>OS runs for the exact same reason.
If you’re seeing shard sales in LFG it means you’re looking at a disorganized / irregular run hosted by some rando.
You’re advertising GDKP as a great pick up group standard but only if you do sign ups ahead of time and not actually pug it. That’s dishonest. Getting people to sign up ahead of time and organising it still makes it an organised raid just with randoms.
To be clear, in a perfect world without gold buying or botting I do agree GDKP would be a great loot system. Just disparaging LFG GDKPs while also claiming its the best PuG format should be pointed out as LFG runs are the primary form of PuG runs.
This exact same standard applies to all loot systems.
MS>OS is great if you trust the leader, if you just join rando groups out of LFG you expose yourself to ninjas, a disorganized raid and an unlikely outcome.
I’m simply addressing the weird advertisement points, which only need to happen with disorganized PUGs without any prior history, community or playerbase.
It’s not a unique GDKP issue, but that doesn’t mean I can’t respond to the points…