I will fight for pets on MM even if it gets to part 10 if I have too. They need to stop taking player choices away. M+ / Raiding isn’t the only content in wow that we should be balancing classes around. I know it sounds silly but some people actually play differently then others.
Instead of making pets viable for MM they are cutting it out entirely for a Eagle we didn’t ask for. All because of Lone Wolf and Bloodlust. Here is a shocker how about we have hunters be hunters and Rangers be Rangers?
If Blizzard wants a petless hunter then why don’t they make a Ranger class? Too much logic?
I’m not invalidating your feedback. You’re entitled to have an opinion. But there’s a reason these changes are happening. There’s also a reason most of you aren’t posting on hunters and it’s because you don’t even play them.
Because the game is balanced around group content first and solo content second.
The sooner you realize solo players are the bottom of the totem pole the sooner you will be better.
The majority of the forums are outraged. The majority of people that actually play MM are happy as this has been one of the most requested changes.
He’s saying this because he constantly loses arguments to me because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
From a performance aspect yes because MM has better aoe.
The majority of people don’t lock themselves to one single spec.
Has zero to do with being elitist and has everything to do with common sense.
You chose to buy a game focused primarily on group content. When the majority of the playerbase plays in said group content you can’t get mad when class changes that affect group content are prioritized over people who only play solo.
What about Delves should we throw Delve players under the bus for M+ players? Even though they get the same or close to the same ilevel gear? Solo players do have a voice.
I don’t get how it’s controversial, if RPers want a Hunter with pets they have Survival and especially BM. Why can’t one Hunter spec be not pet focused?
I also don’t get this being a casual vs elite issue. Why do almost all arguements on this forum seem to devolve into that lol. I’m very casual and rarely do difficult content. I have a Mythic+ rating of 0 and don’t do anything higher than LFR and still thought it was awkward and bad gameplay to summon a pet for Bloodlust, esp. for MM hunters. I don’t think awkward and bad game mechanics should exist just to appease niche RP fantasies. They could just make Hunter’s bloodlust not be tied to any pet at all (even the new AI eagle thing) and make it a separate ez push button like it is for Mages/Shamans, but ironically this is them trying to keep fantasy and variety in the game - just not at the expense of gameplay.
That Snozay dude is always such an eyeroll though. All content matters you trollish jerk. Elitist and less accessible content is actually the content that doesn’t matter, since it’s casuals who are primarily financially supporting the game. Even casuals don’t want crappy and overly awkward gameplay mechanics at the expense of very niche RP fantasies.
The changes look pretty cool to me so far. I reserve my judgment until I get to play the spec. I have a MM hunter, and I rarely use my pet unless I really need a tank to help along. We’ll see how it plays out.
I don’t get how people can be so judgmental about a spec no one has even tried yet. Give it a chance, you might be surprised. This isn’t in response to the above poster, but to everyone who thinks this is a bad change.
The change doesn’t need to come with the removal of the pet you dingus, we can have both just fine. It baffles me how much petty and selfish people are so vocal in wow.
And to answer your previous question, because BM plays vastly differently from MM
Its like asking why mage doesn’t work for you if you don’t want to use a PET as MM, can y’all stop using this lame argument
We know that. A loss of DPS is the trade off for survivability in open world or solo content. When in group content the pet goes away and we have our full DPS restored.
This is not the first go around for Blizzard trying to get rid of MM pets. They tried it during Timeless Isle and they fell flat on their faces as MM Hunter’s survivability fell off a cliff. When your most powerful ability requires you to stand still for its full cast time you don’t last long without something to draw aggro away from you. Of course this immobility issue could be resolved by allowing hunters to run and shoot for all abilities but Blizzard never allows that.
Cause it is a matter of player choices. A straight up removal removes a player choice. What if I wanted a pet as a MM but now I can’t. I would have to switch specs to get my pet back.
It’s like making fury warriors lose the ability to wear plate armor cause someone thinks they are barbarians that should wear leather only. And would be forced to respec to Arm’s to get that ability back.
They made MM the petless spec in Legion and it was so successful that it lasted for one whole patch. But, lest just all forget about that and act like this is Blizzard’s first attempt.
