Why dont you reroll dps warrior? Why dont you reroll dwarf priest? Why are you so selfish Avillager?
They can heal with a 2nd gear set, they dont need to respec. You just want to control the players out of guild acitvity.
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Were you ever asked to change your playstyle when you contribute well enough, or when you raid really needs you not for very specific reasons ? Read my post above this. I am too tired to type again.
Read my post above this. I can’t type one thing over and over again
Haha no. In 19 years, I have never been asked to change my spec or role in a raid. The fact that anyone would ask that is foreign to me. Not in any hardcore, semi-hardcore, or dadcore guild have I ever seen it. The issue here is your entitled expectation, the forcing, the level atwhich you think you can dictate other’s play. Thats you being a jerk, not the person who wants to play their class.
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Read the topic and the debate’s content again if you still have no idea what you are babbling about. If you love bragging your own history, make another topic.
If you have never changed your spec once then wtf are you doing in this topic? It has nothing related to you.
Replying to these dumbass arguments is tiring.
Avillager. You’re wrong and seem to need a large amount of control over how other people play the game. If a guild member wants to use their dual spec to enjoy the pvp content in the game, thats their choice. It is not selfish and its certainly none of your business.
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Ironically, that’s the very thing you’re arguing against. People aren’t allowed to play their way, they must play the correct way.
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Or whatever that is, in his opinion.
The fact that there is much more flexibility means the opposite, you dont need to respec as much. Dual spec removed way too much from the clasic experience where your identity matters as your spec
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Promoting dual specs for everyone to play to their full potentials and not being gimped by specs is to control how people play the game ? Preventing dual spec to force others to endure your suboptimal gameplay is a way to freedom ?
Responding to every bs is tiring, I’ll stop responding to your bs until I see something intellectual.
Season of Discovery is literally trying to ungimp specs. It has a PvP component. Some people only like to play one spec in PVE. You wanting to force people to play the way you think is “optimal” is asinine.
Good troll though. You clearly got me.
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I had a high expectation for you to formulate a good arguement. The debate between dual and single spec is logically onesided due to how convenient and useful dual specs are to players in practice. Instead of using immersion, stories, lore theme, classic theme, w/e that’s mentally/spiritually valuable, to defend your point, you used a cheap and the worst possible option, invidual benefits of a minority, which is easy to counter with any logics, morals, common sense, laws/rules.
You disappointed me.
It’s not because the inconvenience of re-speccing is confirmed by Blizzard as an intentional design choice, not an oversight.
Pre-TBC in 2006, there are posts from CMs (including Nathaera, who is still around today!) advising that Blizzard had noted feedback around the re-spec meta and considered a feature similar to DS but decided they would not be taking any steps to make re-speccing more convenient for TBC. Basically - Blizzard never wanted players to respec so frequently, so the pain of the problem was self-inflicted.
Now, you might disagree with that on a personal level but to suggest DS is ‘objectively’ good for the game is patently false because it runs contrary to the design philosophy.
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And this is how a good arguement should be. But too bad, I lost interest in this topic.
I’m okay with having to go to your trainer and pay gold to respec. But to swap between 2 chosen specs, one pvp and one pve or one dps and one tank I think is perfectly fine and takes nothing away from the game. Only adds to enjoyability
There are a lot of things about vanilla that in hindsight they regret. Having someone tied to a spec they can only use in group content (Holy Paladin) extremely limits them for personal play aspects of the game like farming. Costing 100g each time you want to do non-raid/non-dungeon content is very strenuous on non-RMTers. It greatly diminished my fun in Classic since I mained a holy paladin.
Can you confirm anywhere that this is one of them?
I can’t speak on behalf of the team but I’d assume they’d say that was a player-made problem, and that you were welcome to make a hybrid dungeon/solo spec or make a different character altogether for PvP. Spec was meant to be part of your character identity.
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With or without dual spec, your spec is not going to feel meaningful. That was the lamest excuse anyone could have listed.
If specs weren’t meaningful, people wouldn’t be advocating for DS.
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