If it was such a “hot button” issue, Blizzard would have addressed it long ago. The support article was updated like two weeks ago. This fight has been going on for 14 years, and in that time Blizzard has only said “Multiboxing is allowed but a not a supported playstyle”.
What adds to the confusion is Blizzard even has an article on how to launch multiple instances of the client at the same time.
conversely…Im running ONE character and have no problem farming what i need.
I think youre doing something wrong…or more likely…exaggerating the situation.
do we need to guess which side is ‘dedicated’ and which side is ‘trollers’ ?
Id say all sides are ‘dedicated’…but one side likes to lie and exaggerate for lack of real evidence to back up the vomit they spew up in here daily.
Yeah, I wish you could have threads without that being the case. You just have to learn to mute or ignore people like Jepho or Rufflebottom who are only out to instigate and provoke others. Report them and keep scrolling.
I do agree that a lot of the anecdotes we’ve read here are exaggerated. While I know that everyone has their experiences, I think someone had 1 case where they saw something and immediately made it sound like it was a big problem.
What is a decent amount? My only complaint is Blizzard intentionally didn’t make a lot of Zin’anthid nodes.
I played some of the earliest online games when they were becoming big in the mid 90s. I can remember some of the trashy things players did and saw how companies were having to quickly adjust to how the games were set up because I think they REALLY believed that people are decent and not …well…a few words that would get me a long vacation, no doubt.
So Ive no doubt that people see things that irritate, but I think bliz has done a fair enough job making the game ‘fair’ for all.
These people are clearly going rabid over some boxer hitting a node before they got to it then flailing about in full psyche ward style in here over it. its pathetic to watch…and disgusting to read the level of entitlement it takes to hen peck out the worm ridden feces hate they post in here over ‘muh nodez’.
All this tantrum tossing over a video game.
Dont get me wrong. I can say some fairly uncivil crap when its called for…and do frequently.
But I also dont mix in lies and hyperbole to make it sound worse than it is.
For example. …I dont feel blizzard was forthright in their earlier descriptions as to how farming old content will be once prepatch hits. And im sure a lot of farmer players are going to be ticked when they see they CANT farm legion raids at level 50 like we were lead to believe given that we CAN farm them at 120 currently…I know because Ive run them on my 120 druid enough times.
But Im not going to burn down the forum with 8 threads a day about it like these jokers do.
I think youre spot on.
they saw something boxer related, got ticked off and ran in here as fast as they could to see what kind of dumpster fire they could create in here over it.
I didn’t know you couldn’t farm Legion content at 50. I assumed it would be possible. What changed?
Therein lies the heart of the matter.
they want what they THINK they are OWED…and you and I both…as well as all rational minded folk in here…know that it dont work like that.
The squish and relative power. They said they’d be “tuning” things in the coming weeks, but right now in beta, good luck stepping foot into Legion raids without a group to support you.
Ooh… or you could ask one of your friendly boxer friends to jump in and I bet their 5x box could do some legion raids still. 
What I read early on was that out of chromie time old content scaled down to 35ish…
If your 50 you can cake walk thru that.
But legion isnt scaling down to 35…but 45.
No one is dropping a level 45 raid boss when their level 50.
Ive toyed with it enough to see that it aint happening.
What they have on some older articles that I saw versus the SL main webpage doesnt seem to convey the same ideas as far as how old content scale was going to work.
Huh, well I’ll be. I’ve not played the beta but the last I heard of it, it wasn’t going to be a problem. I hope it does get fixed. From what I read that Blizzard said, everything will remain as relevant as it was. It’s just lowering numbers to more modest amounts.
I was maimed…skewered…kabobbed…trying to run stuff I can sleep thru on retail.
I know it needs worked on…but a 50 character taking down a 45 raid boss? I dont see any amount of tweaking making that happen. Especially not like we’re doing it now where Im literally barely seeing my health bar move.
For the thread itself. Boxing is not botting. Can they be combined? Sure. As far as ISBoxer or what you’d classify as “key cloning” or “key broadcasting” - If you ban these, you can end up banning assistive devices too. For that matter, the key remapping/macro-ing/repeating in something like Razer Synapse devices is bannable.
If you’re interested in the “software botting” subject (as I have done it for work) - Read up on “robotic process automation” - That can give you a good primer to understand the difference of something that broadcasts keystrokes vs. straight up automation of actions.
Ijust copied my main over to the PTR…level 50, 451 resto druid. ive been cleaning house with ALL legion content with this character on retail…
On the PTR legion content scales up to 45…not the 35 that I was reading about maybe two months ago.
Im entering the Tomb of Sargeras now…something I had no problem with on retail.
the first trash scales to 46, lol
the next batch…Infernal Chaosbringers scale to 47…LOL (Im 50)
–insert lots of fighting, screaming and cursing here–
Honestly…the first one of those was nearly as hard to beat on the PTR as the flipping boss (Goroth) is on retail, lol
I barely had to heal at all fighting goroth…but Im having to spam heals on the infernals now.
personally given the levels Im looking at…I think this is exactly how they intend to release it and it AINT going to be soloable by many…if any…players who are level 50 as we all thought it would be based on blizzards comments over the months.
yes…when you get geared up and are level 60…sure…but that aint how they made it sound.
Yeah, I agree, that’s not how they made it sound. They made it sound like everything will remain as relevant as it is now, just smaller, more manageable numbers. The difficulty curve was not supposed to change.
What about old raid trash? Is the 5-mob at once rule still in effect?
Why are u naming and shaming in the forums?
I’m assuming it isn’t considered automated gameplay because it still requires a person to perform the keystrokes. As opposed to botting software that performs actions in the game without any human involvement.
Thats EXACTLY how they made it sound…like what you can solo now, you can solo when SL drops (prepatch I assume).
I hate to break it to the defenders here, but I’d bet a months income that this is how its going to be and we aint going to be soloing BFA or Legion raids as easily as it sounded.
honestly, I cant say i even know what that is. if it moves, I kill it, lol. Didnt know about a policy.
I read that AoE is capped to 5 mobs in SL versus now where we can pull a whole room or half the dungeon and AoE it all to death.
So we should finish all old legacy raids runs for transmogs before pre-patch?