Are you just trying to play devil’s advocate?
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No but I think you are.
I told you from the start that I’m not anti-RDF or pro-RDF. I told you that both are correct in their ways and I can see both arguments.
You have been inventing arguments, statements and point of views that I never had. That was the main issue I had before starting: I knew that both sides have idiots that just don’t know how to argument and are single-minded.
I will repeat it for and make it as easy as I can because I don’t dislike you:
- I. Don’t. Care. About. RDF.
- I think it has benefits: Quality of Life, Lazy mode, Promotes faster levelling and focuses on high end content
- I think it has downsides: Increases anonymity, promotes toxicity
I have been playing WoW since non-stop since TBC. I have seen both RDF and non-RDF. I know what it does and what it doesnt. It is not a myth. It is nothing something new. I’m also not some kind of Anti-RDF that will tell you “go play retail” or something.
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But you have specifically trashed RDF groups vs non RDF groups.
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Not directly, no.
I said that I have met plenty of people of people during the Classic because of no-RDF. This will most likely be gone once RDF comes. Also when RDF comes, people play much more ego because they don’t care who you are as they just want to reach max level. Both things are unfortunately a fact and you can’t change that.
Does that make RDF bad? No. It has its benefits especially currently in Wrath when everyone is just crazy about GS and the 1-60 experience is miserable. However, it will change the game.
Yea this is a good example of why the dislikes should never have been removed from the forums. With no dislikes, there is over 10x the spam that there used to be here because everyone thinks people agree with them no matter what they say. If you dont come back to read the thread, all you will be able to get it nomnstop upvotes, no downvotes so the people never know that there are some people who do disagree with them.
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My guy, if classic has proven anything it’s that RDF wasn’t the deciding factor here.
The tool isn’t what decides who talks or not.
Unless, of course, you think those boosters in Scarlet Monastery were the epitome of conversation and all that …
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Yeah, sure, that’s why.
Sure Jan.
No sir, now it’s you twisting words.
We know that RDF has certain downsides, they’re just not the ones you’re claiming they are.
And classic is ample proof of that.
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I report them all, too.
I’m not whining btw, I’m pointing out that you’re spamming. Doesn’t help your case any.
You whisper the people in the tool lust, duh. B
And I’ve had today two tanks going on my “try not to invite” list. Skill related. Squish as crap, they didn’t look vad gearwise But jebus.
OH NO!
Anyway.
So, whining?
Gotcha.
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They haven’t added rdf because they’re too incompetent to code it in. Muh community is just an excuse to cover for their incompetence
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No, it doesnt. Do you have some secret where you are able to type while fighting stuff in this game? Because it doesnt matter what content it is, once you start to actually do the content instead of yapping all the time, you have to stop communicating. So lets remove combat from the game because it interferes with social interaction. No RDF doesnt kill social interaction and you acting like its the only content in the game is the issue. Its not the only content, maybe you should move on to greater things than to stay in heroic difficulty. You have pug raids, guilds, forming your own group to use the RDF and so much more so your “kills social interaction” is completely and utterly debunked. Also you kind of defeat your own arguments. Do you actually have friends and social connections? If you do then you should have 0 issues what so ever because even if it does take 20 minutes to get into a group as a DPS, it would be faster for you to go through your “friends” list and put together a group from that cutting down on the wait time. Or have you guys been lying all this time in an effort to keep people from enjoying the game that they experienced over a decade ago?
Keep reading, I explained it… PEOPLE DONT WANT THE GEAR FROM THE DUNGEON!. Unless its FoS, PoS or HoR no one wants the gear from the dungeon. They want the badge gear which is a grind. 39 tokens for legs… how many dungeons do you think that is? its around 10 dungeons for 1 item.
This always happens with people like you that always tries to change what people say in order to have an argument because you cant actually debunk what they said. So you change their argument to an easier one to argue with, thats a strawman argument and a fallacy through and through.
Who is saying this exact thing? Hmm? Ive never seen it. Most people have went to the AH and bought what they could, they have done all of Icecrown and Storm Peaks, did Wrathgate and the one quest in Zul’Drak to get started. Where people are supposed to go from there doesnt exist, especially tanks. You are lucky to be able to get into a heroic group. I got into 1 group last night for both dailies and we were able to do both of them, some of which were doing less damage than me (tank) and we still finished both before my flask ran out. But only 1 group. Thats it. This whole “no RDF! It kills the game” nonsense has killed the game far more than RDF could have ever done. All because “muh social connections which is just a list of people I ran a dungeon with once but I’ll call them friends anyways when they arent even close”.
So tired of all these fallacies and poor arguments against what would be beneficial to the game because some people that cant even go to the grocery store to say hi to the cashier wants everyone else to be forced into this lame way of playing.
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This is false and a projection.
There have been anti-RDF people that have saif that if RDF is implemented they would join to just be toxic.
Lies, or else you would know people just get on with the dungeon.
My server has dropped players and I still havent ran into the same person twice. Not during dailies or anything else.
And i havent remembered a single person with manual group formimg, even the people i ran with about 10 hours ago.
So there is social interactions in RDF?
Or you are lying. You anti-RDF people need to stop suggesting other people are garbage or less than you while you sit yourself on a pedestal. Sounds pretty toxic.
No it didnt, guilds are still being formed right?
Apparently its not fine or you wouldnt be trying to make an argument out of it.
They are not and has already been explained how they are wrong.
No, it didnt, you are just seeing what you want to see. Pug raids, join a guild, there are other avenues to do what you want, go do them. Your refusal is not my problem.
What? You couldnt vote kick until 15 minutes have past and most times the dungeon would be over by then.
So i was right, you are the toxic one. Nothing left to see here.
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Well… you aren’t alone. Not by a long shot.
But don’t give up the fight.
What freaking social part?
The world is dead and there’s no RDF. You’re wrong the facts don’t freaking lie the world is dead. Just because you see someone flying around picking herbs or mining ore doesn’t mean the world is thriving.
It’s freaking dead.
And the game during wrath is “I want to rush to max level” That’s literally wrath it changed into that during BC. This isn’t Vanilla.
The only reason all these people who are Anti-RDF are content is because they do nothing but raid-log maybe some Heroic+ but they don’t have to deal with new people getting to max level because there’s no social interaction while leveling anymore, it’s just collect 10, kill 10, and it’s boring as hell.
RDF Fixes a bunch of crap and you anti people just wanna keep your little clique of “We’re the best because we played every week”
Screw off. A quick /who of level ranges shows how much the RDF tool is needed.
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People that want to socialize are in guilds. They also run dungeons with guild members. Dungeons are not a social gathering. The whole anti social fallacy is absolutely ignorant.
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Nah, it all started with trying to cater to streamers. Now that the forums are largely speaking out against not having it, their block headed ego can’t say “we were wrong” and implement it.
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Read that first
I’m happy you socialize with your guild and don’t care about your dungeoneers. Other don’t.
Don’t speak for everyone. It’s the main issue here why Anti-RDFs and Pro-RDFs never come along. You think your personal experience and point of view has to be the correct one and you don’t accept anyone that is playing differently. (BOTH SIDES)
Funny thing you mention that because that is exactly what you are doing. I also never mentioned my personal experiences, so your just projecting your insecurities.
Read that again and try to comprehend it.
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