Shocked those rotted things roll. But it happens.
Blizzard hates ideas they didn’t think of first. I think that’s why so many “great ideas” from players (mod makers) and systems from other games are implemented in such a crappy fashion.
If they didn’t already think of it then WoW doesn’t need it, and they will prove how horribly it will do in WoW. Then they get to say “Well we tried, but you guys didn’t like it so… We told you so.”
I swear they do this on purpose. I’d almost be willing to put $ on the fact they screw up things on purpose.
I can’t wait to see how the WoW in game version of raider.io is going to fail. I’m almost giddy to see how bad it is. Just because so many people already hate the addon (mostly for how it’s used not how it works but still) . I know WoW is going to make their version so mush worse. This is gonna be good.
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Yeah well, whatever “Idea” we gave to blizzard. Either they don’t take it or make an alternative and disguised it as the real deal. So what’s the purpose behind this? Is that blizzard cares about greed than their own player base. Unfortunately, if we give them the awesome hints to save WoW. Chances are, it’s useless and out of luck.
After seeing the terrible mess garrisons were, I have no desire to see player housing, and have no faith they CAN do player housing
no it won’t at all. thanks though.
i would love player housing that i can decorate myself, but i seriously doubt that anyone that quit would come back for that.
not just player housing- make it guild towns with player housing.
so you dont just build your own house but also a community
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I don’t think so… I’m very skeptical about the potential of player housing in wow. I wasn’t really interested in housing in other rpg games. And with wow’s graphics…?
I mean they are good, but I’m not sure its proper graphics for content like housing.
Well foods from Pandaria and Suramar seemed appealing tho. lol
If anything I’d suggest Blizz reuse Garrison. Maybe they give some options so that people can change the appearances, like Night Elf theme or Gnome theme for Alliance for example.
We can get lvl 3 Garrison directly and start to build one more building inside Garrison where we can use as a player housing. I think that’s enough. I mean, for me.
Why would they need a competition to make this a financial asset? They have a shop. I mean, just look at how other MMOs like FFXIV make bank off of a cosmetic shop.
Player housing and guild halls has alot of potential that can integrate professions and old expansion content into its system. The fact is it will take a tonne of resource for blizz to implement something that vast. All depends if the devs think such system is worth. A half assed housing system wont do any good
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I don’t think it would necessarily save the game, but it could certainly breathe life into certain aspects of the game, aspects I like.
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Their entire focus in the game is creating and promoting eSports. They don’t need to do this but they think they do. They are even turning Torghast into an eSport.
As someone who still uses their garrison - I like the idea of player housing…
“I like” but you need to figure out some ways to make it appealing to more then 1 segment of the playerbase.
As a PVE collector I use my garrison all the time - it has a black market AH tracker, a Transmogger, A bank, A smithy, a Inn, a Pet arena and a auction house.
I would see the garrison (which was poorly rolled out and the beginning of the whole mission table BS which tainted it) as the template.
- You determine “where it is” that effects the basic background lot look; then you have a series of “spots” to place structures for amenities.
- You allow the space to be shared and accessed - make neighborhood instances so that communities can actually form…
- Give it a upkeep - something to drain money from just “existing” but not so much that it is annoying.
- Introduce trophies - currently dropped from content and as drops from Time walking content & achievements in general
- Provide means for other types of players to find use! Example - maybe include arena’s where players could duel…INCLUDE a NPC to allow players to place bets on their favorite player? Maybe include means for players to practice mechanics? Or portals allover the place?
The issue I see with housing - it needs to provide added value to the majority of the player base - not just one sub-set. I also think there would need to be consideration for the impact it will have in making the world look smaller. The reality is that a lot of the components for housing are already in world of Warcraft and can just be repurposed - we already got buildings and various sub-systems that are not being used anymore.
I actually really would like the idea of being able to bet gold through a NPC on player vs player matches…that would be fun!
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While I’d love Player Housing, and get a lot of time out of it, I think the greater point to take out of this post is that WoW needs more permanent content, in general. Things that add to the game and are always relevant in some fashion or another.
Too many of the things you can do in modern WoW are locked to the expansion in which they’re relevant, and then essentially forgotten, save for the ones that let you come back later and trivialize them for cosmetics. And that’s not even getting into all the wasted dev time on systems that only stay with us for a couple of years at best.
WoW just needs more to enrich the world, to keep people playing and wanting to (not ‘needing’ to) engage with it. Small cosmetic trinkets they could build a player house out of are an excellent example, but not the only one.
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Speaking as an old DAOC vet myself, you are 150% correct.
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It’s an easy solve even if that were a problem. Makes some items for housing drops in the world or granted with achievements.
Make them drop only for those that have bought a housing deed.
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The garrison is a fort. Not really housing. And the way to inviting people in was a bit wonky. Especially Horde side where you have to meet up a ways out from the garrison to even see each other. Switch party lead so you are seeing their garrison, then go back to said garrison.
It’s got some customization but not nearly what housing has with furnishing. With the way they made it, it wouldn’t work at all.
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As a long-time DAOC vet (Alb-Hib Guin) I disagree; WoW and DAOC are 2 very different animals which is something to consider. Foundations actually created markets and ment you spent less time spamming in the city - usually to the backdrop of people arguing. I preferred the personal vendors and actually enjoyed walking through neighborhoods to window-shop.
That being said because guilds used guild-houses to gather they were more co-ordinated; which became a big deal in ToA (which is more like what WoW is like)
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As long as it were optional, and not made to be a requirement for anything, then yeah housing could be a fun thing for players as a side activity to fool with. But Knowing these devs they would find a way to make it a requirement for some bs like pathfinder, or tie some sort of character progression to it to where you have to make a house lol.
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I cannot agree more - it should be optional; also because if it is NOT optional then they would discard it like every other feature they introduce or need to constantly tweak it (cough mission tables)
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