Phase 2 is way too early

I’m lvl 16!!!

And that’s fine, you aren’t 60 because you choose not to focus on leveling for whatever reason. That’s very different than claiming that time was the major issue instead of your personal chooses on what you did with your time.

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This post is ridiculous. Getting to 60 with all the knowledge we have of the game is so easy. Stop trying to hold people back. This is CLASSIC, not vanilla. Everything is going to be faster. We need content faster. 6 months per phase is a joke.

To reiterate, have you ever played a game, then later replay the game and it went faster? Because why would it not? Same thing here. Can’t understand why people can’t see this. I sure as hell beat dark souls way faster the second time around.

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Sigh, the math has already been done a dozen times or more. It’s been proven that in order to be 60 already you had to have played more hours daily than what anyone in their right mind would consider casual. Don’t know how we came back to that, because time is in fact the main reason a lot of people aren’t 60 and my personal reasons have nothing to do with that.

FYI guys, your numbers may assume that people are doing nothing but levelling when they are online. Also, even if every hour is dedicated to levelling, some people level at a different pace. That’s also assuming all those hours are going into a single character.

“people are bored and need more content” do people saying this not realize this is what drove WoW to its current state today? Releasing a DLC every year, constantly moving the finish line to participate in endgame/collect the “badass” gear, just to put in so much time you’re “bored” again?

With this line of logic we are going to be out of vanilla within a year, and I’m sure as hell not sticking around if it becomes “vanilla plus the first three expansions”.

I’m sorry some of you played the game until there is nothing to do, but that is what would happen to you in ANY videogame.

The fact is that majority of players are still just getting to 60 or working their way up there. Just because you played on one toon non stop, raided instances nonstop that has been perfected for 10 years, and no have nothing to do doesn’t mean you should dictate the pacing of content releases (yes I know I shouldn’t either).

I’m really worried what post-naxx plans are, because all of these people complaining about being bored is going to ruin classic and just make it another retail amusement park ride. Enjoy the game and realize you grinding to the very end of a game (that is SUPPOSED to have an end point) and then complaining about nothing to do is going to ruin this version.

Go back to retail if you need new content every month because you overplay the game.

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There’s always going to be some moron whining about being left behind (Hint: that’s you!)

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3-4 hours a day for a hobby that you are enthusiastic about is not at all unreasonable or some super hardcore level of dedication. So yeah at this point if you aren’t 60 yet it’s not because you didn’t have the time.

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Keep in mind that is the minimum time needed to hit 60 now or recently since launch. Most people complaining about others taking too long and needing more content have spent probably 5-8 hours on wow daily. The fact that blizzard is catering to these types is mind boggling.

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If someone was primarily focused on leveling 4 hours a day would have been more than enough to hit 60 by the time DM came out. That some people like you choose not to focus on leveling with their play time isn’t a reason to punish those who did.

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Lol dude now you’re just repeating what i already said. Of course they would have hit 60 with 4 hours a day, my post earlier already explained that 3.5 hours a day would have done the trick. Now you’re just arguing for the sake of arguing. My point from the beginning was that 4 hours of grinding and doing nothing else every day on wow since launch is not casual and most people who are 60 play more than that. Those people for some reason don’t want to admit they play a lot and instead want to downplay it like they are in fact the casual ones and anyone not 60 just sucks and never plays.

Nobody cares if you quit. You’re like 4 years away from doing phase 2 content at your pace anyway.

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4 hours a day for a hobby you’re excited about is not nearly as hardcore as you are trying to make it out to be. And regardless of how hardcore or casual you think it is clearly a lot of people put in that commitment and in general the population is ready for more content, even if you aren’t.

Well if you have social circles, other things to do, no time to play WoW, then p2 is probably not going to make any difference for you.

In what world should a game developer cater those who barely spend any time in the game?

Why does everyone feel entitled the game should go with their pace. Or thinks the majority of the people are at their level? It’s up to the game developer how fast things go and of course it won’t suit everyone.

If 3 months were not enough for you to get to 60, then this game has little to no value or meaning to you. Simple as that.

The reason Retail died is exactly cause they catered those who didn’t care about the game and wanted to get everything within a day with 1h playtime. Mission accomplished.

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Lol so if I’m not 60 in three months I just shouldnt play? You realize how silly you sound right?

What exactly is your “ideal” scenario? Do you want to keep grinding as fast as possible, get bored, and then wait for new content?? Are you fine with them releasing BC (since you’ll be so bored)? What about Wrath after that? I mean you’re gonna get bored of BC really fast as well… Why not do cataclysm while we’re at it? Why not keep going so we can have two versions of the same damn game?

The people that are “bored” are doing this to themselves. Please explain how this ends well when you max out the available content in 3 months. We will be back to retail in a year lol.

Dumb.

I played a pally since launch and got her to 52. I didn’t like pally in late/end game so I re-roll this warlock. Hit 60 few days ago. Btw I am a casual player. I don’t understand why some people take so long to level.

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The fact that you are slow on leveling is not the fault of the rest of the community. If you are not 60, don’t expect that phase release schedules will be held back. if anything some of the phases or features of the phases need to be released for the quality of life of the game.

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There will always be people who say too early or too late, based on the exact same timing.

This thread seems pretty clueless. It’s almost as if people have different standards but no one realizes it.

Person 1 levels to 60 in one week, sees person 2 hit level 60 in two weeks, “Hah, casual”.

Person 2 levels to 60 in two weeks, sees person 3 hit level 60 in a month, “Hah casual.”

Person 3…

You get the point… or maybe not?

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If they want to keep to the original vanilla timeline it would be like ~4 months per phase to line up with release>tbc release

2.5 Months is a little early imo, they should release it during christmas break. Give players more time to either get to a level where they can participate, or they at least have more time to deal with the increased WPVP due to having a few days off.

If it takes the average player 10 days of played time to get to 60 questing with no “optimal path guides” then they would have played 3 hours per day up til the release date of P2 That’s 21 hours per week or so, that’s like working a part time job on top of whatever other responsibilities you may have. On my particular server i would say 90% of the player base is between 40 and 60.

I don’t know many people who play games for 20+ hours a week that are above the age of 25 or so. So whats likely gonna happen is the people who can play a lot will just kill all the people that don’t have much time to play, either pushing them to just not play or they will just hide and dungeon grind. It may also end up being a really good time. But there will always be those players who will honor grind in level 52 zones because they can’t compete against other 60s.

I see BGs releasing before BWL like DM did to help mitigate the issue above.