Pet revive time, do hunters enjoy it?

Yes it is lol

It’s incredibly easy to stop a 4 second rez. It is also incredibly easy to just kill the pets again. You can take away all of a hunters momentum by doing this. Even last season, if I actually fought teams that knew how important it was, they could actually keep me out of the game for a ridiculously long time, with just 2 second rez.

For example, RPS or RMX, the rogue can acually just tab and kill the pet through most healing in BfA season 4, he needs only minimal damage from his dps to kill a pet, it could get 100-0d in 3-4 seconds. We’d pain sup pets, use mending bandages on gushings, have my feral spam heal the pet, try and keep them away as much as possible, use vitality conduit, voodoo totems, exhilirations, aspect of the turtle etc. to help keep the pet alive and the teams we practiced against either could constantly stop the rez, or just easily 100-0 it again when it got rezzed. All momentum is gone by trying to keep it alive. Gl trying to rez it when dealing with multiple kicks and spammable CC.

Pets also could randomly die vs a frost DK cleave, if that happened you actually could be severely behind and lose a game off that because of how much pressure you’re losing. Even worse if you’re fighting monks because ring of peace can knock you during aspect of the turtle, preventing you from rezzing your pet.

These were things with a 2 second rez. It is now 4. We have none of the pet defensive abilities from the past xpacs. They are all pruned on top of our pets NEEDING to be attacking a kill target at all times to be useful (mortal wounds effect bare minimum). If we’re Survival even revenerating our focus requires us to kill command and set our pets back in the open. We need sustained pressure, momentum, and mortal wounds to win games as SV. Let alone the utility from our pet.

4 second rez is incredibly easy to shut down man, and it being a massive punishment wouldn’t even be that awful if pets didn’t just die to nothing. They have 70% of out hp, no benefit from out versatility, no more active damage mitigation or increased healing received, no CD to keep them alive or resummon them besides our own defensives, they simply have mend pet. A 10 second CD heal over time effect that is purgeable. Mage, Priest, Hunter, Shaman, Demon Hunters can all just purge out mediocre heal over time effect, healing 50% over 10 seconds at best (once we’re playing 60) that is impacted by mortal wounds.

You’re spreading misinformation too, you said my video was for 6 second rez. It was not.

You claimed there are still plenty of hunters you’re looking at for rep, the ladders are frozen to show you the end of last season. You cannot see rankings from pre patch.

Here’s a clip of me playing my mage, solo stopping a hunter from gettin off a 4 second revive pet for a minute straight. By the time he gets the rez off, he immediately dies. He had already used all his defensive CDs to keep his pet alive. I immediately and easily killed the pet right after as soon as he turtle rezzed or used exhil, by just having a few procs and getting a polymorph on his healer.

My healer doesn’t even judge the pets, I solod them. I could do this even easier in 3s with someone else there to work with me. The entire time his pet is gone, all momentum is lost, and even when brought back, it can very rapidly die again. If the rez stays they need to be actually difficult to kill.

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You are evil. Thank you for existing

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My favorite part is that he actually locks me on sheep and I get a polymorph before his rez finishes

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You’ll soon enough enjoy the <3sec interrupts against Venthyr casters :unamused:

wrong

A top rated hunter agreeing that 4 sec with the current state of pet survivability and utility options to keep them alive is far too long. Should be enough to end the “4 SeC rEz TimE iS FiNE, Git GoOd” nonsense lol

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Well that video was cathartic and some great evidence about how silly the rez change is. Thanks lol.

Worth noting I could have easily killed the pet with multiple specs/classes.

Warriors keeping up rend

Spriests dotting and throwing some mindblasts, as long as I just dispel mend pet.

Every mage spec I can easily do this

I can kill pets easily as a hunter

Rogues if they’re assa can easily do this, they will have a bit harder time themselves killing pets potentially in that they’ll probably be wasting a dance (although they could still technically just dance kill the pet, I’ve seen it done) they also can just rely on letting their healer kill the pet for them while they do a go.

WW’s can just double sweep the hunter and his pet and kill the pet in it.

Shamans can kill them easily.

Aff warlocks obviously can kill them easily, especially just keeping dots on them.

Feral Druids and Boomkins can destroy pets, etc.

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compared to some classes cast times for spells, 2 seconds is nothing. I see no complaining about MM hunter’s 2.5 second cast time to get off an Aimed Shot or 3 seconds for Sniper Shot… two of their most important casts

yet regardless of this statement, the homie still achieved 3.4k rating and is the #1 top hunter in the world. Notice too how his statement mentions “keep me out of the game” rather than lose matches :stuck_out_tongue:

Even with a 4 sec cast time, homie’s prob still gonna top the next season in the top 20 of all classes as always and #1 hunter.

you say all this, yet regardless of the shut downs and lost of your pet countless times, you still pulled out ahead as the #1 hunter. just goes to show it didn’t matter in the grand scheme of things as it was instead your skill and your team’s skill that matter more.

Since there were so few hunters, very few players knew there was actually counterplay by killing my pet. Most people had no idea that SV pets were so important, even some of my team mates. They didn’t understand why reviving it was so crucial, and they qued with me.

I also made sure to try and keep it as unknown as possible when we were competing in AWC and not mention it because obviously that would be a massive disadvantage. When practicing for one team that we were beating in WGs (they weren’t as good as the team we prepared for), they instead opted to just tunnel my pet. We then lost every game and pmuch had no chance of winning.

Sometimes there are advantages to very few people playing your spec. This again, is when we had fast pet revives. Now more people are aware and the cast time is doubled. It is far easier to shut down.

If you keep a momentum based spec from playing, the game will be lost. I never actually beat any of the teams that knew they could tunnel my pet to win.

For the rogue mage the only way I could resurrect my pet meant my feral taking cyclone, and sacrificing defensive talent options for himself. So if he played cyclone they could just give up killing my pet and just tunnel my feral instead, who would die without having the heart of the wild honor talent. So it was a lose/lose where my opponents could just choose what they wanted to do and we couldn’t do much about it.

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yet regardless of this, i have zero doubts you’d ever end the next season as a sub 3K Andy… and not within the top 25 overall as usual :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

I mean in BfA season 3 not a single hunter on NA including myself got rank 1. I didn’t even get 3k that season. Hunters were far weaker that season because they had very little ways to close out a game or generate momentum. Drest’agath trinkets, reaping flames, and gushing in S4 helped fix those problems.

I am confident I wouldn’t get rank 1 with a 4 second pet rez and pets in their current state playing survival. You are simply just dead wrong. In 3v3 this would be a massive joke to shut down, I even struggle more at lower rating on my hunter than higher rating only because if I que into players that I am friends with they don’t bother killing it for a prepatch 2v2 win - but you better believe that if it’s an actual rated 3s game they’ll do it.

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you really are a troll, or do not understand the hunter class (bm/surv). Interrupting a basic ability cast is no where near comparable to losing a pet as bm or survival. If I’m on any other class/spec and one of my longer cast abilities gets kicked I simply move on to ALL my other abilities that ARE still available to me. But as BM/Surv if my pet is dead and my revive is kicked, I got to keep trying to revive because I have next to no abilities that are impactful available. They are mostly all tied to a dead pet that needs to be revived 1st. Its like being disarmed. So where u are saying its worst to have 1 ability kicked. in reality its far worse having a revive kicked thats also the only way of turning MOST ALL of bm/surv functioning kit.

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Not sure why everyone is working double time on trying to correct Ravens. When it has no intentions of submitting it’s stubborn stance.

You can lead a horse to water…

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if anything it gives reason to point out more logical counterpoints to the 4 sec Rez thing while also making the thread bigger in hopes it gets noticed by blizzard in some way…tho blizzard seems to be about as stubborn as Ravens on poor class design choices lol

There has been a couple threads that have had hundreds of responses prior to this on the exact same topic. Keep pushing and posting for sure. It’s more so Ravens’ claims and statements which have been brought up repeatedly by others have already been shot down time and time again.

When do you just ignore the stupidity instead of giving it more flame?

it’s like when someone intentionally tells a joke, i.e. “is Metroid’s gun attached to his arm or his suit?” or you misspell a word, people can’t resist the urge to correct you, regardless if you don’t care, are just r/wooshing them, or stringing them along, it’s just human nature to tryhard to be superior and beat a dead horde over and over in attempt to come out on top, unfortunately even when you believe you might be getting played if there’s a small chance that you aren’t, you’re going to fall into the trap of human nature.

I mean, at least you’re admitting it so I can feel justified in my suspicions and reasoning for not responding earlier.

Okay so…troll confirmed then.