People leaving keys is a BIG problem. New NOTE system

Sounds like a good way to get all addons banned.

Player will just abuse it to screw each other over.

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I disagree with the “incomplete dungeon statistic” at least in level 16+. We’re there for score at that point and if we botch the key at the start, it’s probably not going to be timed, we’ll just call it and run the level below or a different key.

For example, 21 nw everyone’s cute especially me, but the tank loses aggro because of all our insane bursts and we wipe. We reset and pull without the far right pack, someone breaks my trap, surprise! Four groups with two inspires having their fun. Wipe 2 and we’re 6 minutes out with no groups killed. Small mistakes, no big deal, but of course we don’t have any reason to finish the dungeon at that point and we run my 20.

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That’s legit my favorite book of all time :laughing:

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I would say make a personal blacklist page on Raider IO but mine got reset on there so >_>… kinda sus.

It sucks that it happens but people are so worried about abuse, which there certainly are times it would be abused.

The best thing to do is just make a personal blacklist somewhere on your computer and pass it around. The best thing Blizzard could do is reduce the impact on the key holder through various ideas I have seen, I really couldn’t care less about key though as I care more about the wasted time because of a leaver but something to better protect the key holder would be nice.

If this is true then this is the best news I could hope for in terms of Key Leavers. Case by case basis reviewed by a Human to punish at least the extreme cases (like leaving the first 5 seconds after the key starts) is very welcome news. If its automated though people are just going to scream abuse so hopefully its not, and rightly so since an AI which just goes off of reports can’t differentiate between someone who left 5 seconds into the key and someone who is getting rage reported by a salty group.

Well, they added an option to say if you want it timed or not. If you marked the “beat timer” option and the key clearly won’t time, people will leave, and they are right to leave.

But if you don’t, and you told everyone its completion, people have to stay, and they usually do unless it passes like 30 minutes after timer ends

Exactly, if the team made this amount of mistakes and everyone is around 2900-3000 io, they have no reason to keep going.

That’s why there is no leaver debuff for M+, it’s a content we fail a lot until we do it right… adding a cd to start a new key would ruin every serious team progression. How MDI people would practice, for example?

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I left 3 keys today on my monk tank, was queuing for streets groups and they were not streets, they were gambit and we were not wasting time doing gambit when we wanted to farm streets so RIP that person’s key.

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Take your time to ask if its streets everytime, the LFG tool is bugged and shows wrong key sometimes.

we started doing this once we realized there was a bug, still sucks for those people though.

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I’ve had to do it twice too, felt so bad I did a gambit one time just to not break his key. lol

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I can tell you that no matter what idea you come up with it’ll get abused to the point of breaking M+.

You’d think that any idea you can think of Blizzard has already thought of and decided it wouldn’t work.

If you can come up with 1 solution that will actually work I’ll eat my words because your first solution was terrible.

This has happened to me multiple times, I’m glad their key depleted.

Tricking someone using lies and deception deserves to be punished. I even asked in chat I thought was streets to be completely ignored by leader.

If we implement OP’s solution then I’d get a note on my file for leaving a key that I was tricked into.

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ok so tell them. this is the wow forums not the raider io forums.

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Its a bug in party finder tootens, nobody is deceiving you.

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Fair enough, if I had known about the bug at the time I would of stayed because it was obviously not the lead’s fault. They could of written Gambit in the title though, it would of clicked in my head that the key advertised does not match up with the group.

This just further proves the OP solution is bad.

No one should receive a “leavers note” for a bug caused by Blizzard.

If this is such a big problem for you stsrt by looking at what you are doing wrong. I don’t think I have had even 5 leavers this expac probably.

No one leaves keys that are going remotely OK.

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You don’t get deserter for leaving ranked PvP as far as I know. You get it from random bgs and you get it from random dungeons too.

So…. No one should start playing this late into an expansion? No1 that hasn’t tried m+ before should start now?

Wow, way to kill a game there. Just never let new blood in at all lol

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Won’t happen because 4 man premades would troll to a very small degree, but the possibility of it happening is what makes them afraid. Also this isn’t the place for addon suggestion, take this to the site.

Blizzard used to shut down websites that operated similar to Yelp for players because it was hindering their game experience because someone gets upset, flags them as a ninja looter, rates them low, etc. Usually over them not giving them the item they wanted/passing the roll for them.

Used to be a blog that got memed back in like MoP of someone basically either paying for, or just asking for ERP with players on Moon Guard then would post the whole interaction on a blog for all to see. It was shut down because those logs were getting some people kicked out of their guilds. Despicable thing for the person to do but I must admit that is amusing. Namely that it was usually people on the forums who would get really sanctimonious so he decided to show everyone who they really were.

Ug im not interested in policing others. I woul auto decline snitchin on someone

Ppl leave. Dont like it? Build an m+ team

Saved you a bunch of time