People DIDN'T Know What They Signed Up For

[Wuumak-incendius]

Blizzard should also change shadowbolt icon to

Also they should change the graphic to make it look like my warlock is firing at you. Defeated by eggplant all over your grill sir.

[Wuumak-incendius]

Look at my gnome, my gnome is amazing, give him a lick, tastes just like raisens

[Harlff-smolderweb]

Don’t like the stat
e of your PvP server? Go somewhere else. It worked for me.

I think as someone else pointed out, what is the difference whether they reroll or just transfer pvp -> pve ?

[Örcasms-bigglesworth]

Also they should change the graphic to make it look like my warlock is firing at you.

Warlocks are already OP enough.

[Wuumak-incendius]

Pew Pew… Fire the

[Wuumak-incendius]

[Ezgg-rattlegore]

The issue is not that blizzard did not understand the game, the issue is that you have a few different types of people who joined pvp servers (some of the below may also be combined). Not an all inclusive list, but shows just how convoluted the issue is, and how it is not as black and white as people make it out to be. This may be one of the few areas I actually think Blizz is in the clear on (not many though, they really screwed up a lot with classic in a lot of other aspects, just look at the bug forum)
1:the target audience, who knew what wpvp was like and wanted to relive fond memories
2:The person with zero vanilla experience who got talked into joining a pvp server by their buddy who played wow in vanilla
3: The person who joined pvp without looking at what that meant
4: The person who came from Retail and expected pvp server to be warmode
5: The person who read when Blizzard said the game would be in phases, with warts and all, but thought “nah they wont do that, they will cater to player base if they complain enough”
6: The person who joined because a streamer played on one and made them think it was really cool
7:The person who joined a pvp server based solely on stories from vanilla about how great they were
8:The player who wanted to relive memories, but did not factor into account that they had more time to play in vanilla and now how responsibilities that prevent being able to deal with some of the misfortunes that happen on pvp servers

Woah there partner. I’m going to have to ask you to pack up your things and leave this forum. We don’t allow nuanced view points in these parts.

[Johnnyderp-arthas (Johnnyderp)]

There hasn’t been true wPvP in 10+ years

That’s no excuse. Many of us knew what PvP servers were.

“Blizzard please fix the result of my poor decisions” is exactly how we ended up with BFA. If it was something that couldn’t otherwise be fixed, I could understand, but we’re not significantly limited in the number of characters we can make, or the number of servers we can play on. Additionally, every PvP problem has a PvP solution. The fact that the first response is a sarcastic “o rite fine i will 1 v 300 them” only enhances my point.

This is something they can fix themselves, but won’t because it requires some amount of desire, or motivation.

[Wuumak-incendius]

[Cozer-sargeras]

You forgot the most talked about issue, retail players. They have always over done everything, that is why most players left. We have a clash of old school players, meet the retail players. They always ruin the game play

[Valak-sulfuras]

Rerolling involves consequences, transfers do not. The whole conversation has been around consequences for decisions. The mention of honor was how it directly effects people on a pvp server for allowing mass transfers. Try to follow the bouncing ball “brainlet”…

[Mayhap-arcanite-reaper]

[Nyaru-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I don’t see a problem here. Let them transfer off the server, and be done with it I say.

[Örcasms-bigglesworth]

That’s no excuse. Many of us knew what PvP servers were.

Except it’s a perfectly viable excuse for people who NEVER experienced them, because of age or interests at the time.

“Blizzard please fix the result of my poor decisions” is exactly how we ended up with BFA.

This is typical ideologue thinking. Transfers from PVP to PVE servers were available and widely used in vanilla. #nochanges.

[Chromatic-fairbanks]

Knowing what PvP servers were and what they are now are not at all the same though. For instance, since honor has been released, all FP’s 48+ are camped and quest hubs are taken over. This was not a thing that happened in actual classic… Maybe once in a while sure, but the sheer number of players on some of these servers allows for griefing and farming that could have never existed in actual vanilla. You can’t really make a comparison between the two as the experiences are still vastly different.

[Chromatic-fairbanks]

Again with a terrible point lmao. SomEoNe LeAvInG dOeSn’T aFfEcT mY hOnoR bUt TrAnSfErInG dOeS!

[Johnnyderp-arthas (Johnnyderp)]

Except it’s a perfectly viable excuse for people who NEVER experienced them

That’s how you learn. Classic WoW was a structure that dictated player activities, not the other way around.

This is typical ideologue thinking. Transfers from PVP to PVE servers were available and widely used in vanilla. #nochanges.

You’re conflating paid transfers with Blizzard fixing things for free, which is the actual demand being made. They can pay to transfer. That’s fine. It puts a dollar amount on consequence resolution, which is very similar to simply forcing them to reroll except they aren’t left with two characters at the end of that transaction.

[Valak-sulfuras]

tHeRe sHouLd Be conSequEnces fOr poOr decIsicioN MaKinG, maIn pOinT, qUiT SnaKin oN pAiNt chIps

[Cptpain-shuhalo]

I left retail to come to Classic because of the state of PvP. I PURPOSELY rolled a PvE server because leveling on a PvP server that awarded nothing for it, except for lots of wasted time from being camped, didnt sound awesome. I guess I was right. Sounds like a lot of folks experienced what I feared would have been mine. I don’t blame them either, but some players have not been playing long enough to have predicted these shenanigans.

We have more than enough PvP on this PvE server…for now. Not to mention, as alliance on most PvP server, it doesn’t end well in most areas for us. Roll horde? Cool, lets all roll horde (FotM type move) and then we won’t have any alliy to battle…

[Chromatic-fairbanks]

Also you seem to be under the delusion that these people who are “waiting it out” or aren’t transferring are going to continue to go out into the open world and allow you to kill them. You are already missing out on those HK’s man. Now it’s just you being an elitist, toxic person.