if you need anything holler. can donate bags/handful of gp.
This whole conversation is pitiful. You think this is grief, you think this is bad, you people have UTTERLY NO IDEA. Weak! WEAK! These aren’t pvp servers, they are only half pvp. REAL PVP servers is OPEN SEASON ON EVERYONE. I want the freedom to beat the snot out of Alliance ninjas that steal stuff because they know they can’t be hurt.
However, this aside and embracing the current argument as it stand. IMHO, the simple fact is as much as RP gets dissed on, it is in fact what saves servers. People who take it upon themselves to defend the weak, and help the rising generation. Emulators has more assistance than Classic because people there really WERE trying to relive their old days.
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Nah, just open up a batch of free transfers. They can only go from PvP realms to PvE/RP realms, but only if they want straight off a PvP server. Which I know some don’t, but I can’t come up with any good ways to force a balance on a server, so at least give them an option to get out, with their progress intact.
Let them leave and be done with it.
if the PvP server collapses, because people refused to acknowledge there was a problem and ran everyone off, so be it I say.
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Games still do have great world pvp. Black desert online to name one. Then again, that games only focus is pvp so.
it’s not the same, there are 4x as many people on at once in a server.
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I didn’t know servers would be 3x or more larger than my first exp but I should have done my research before I rolled. Oh well. I knew it would be different based on knowledge alone but didn’t factor in more people with the same size world and amount of resources.
There are consequences man, sheesh you are dense. No one is denying that. But people are either rerolling or just quitting until BG’s are released, and if there’s not some marked difference in enjoyment they will leave the game. That is the consequence of poor decision making, I agree. But what we are arguing about now with you is why you care so much that these players are chastised?
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Except that’s not true at all. Vanilla radically changed their game based on player activities. Patch 1 Vanilla wasn’t even the same game.
If you pay for it, it’s fine!
Let’s be straight up for a second. NONE of you actually CARE about other people learning lessons. You just want to stand on your high horse looking down on others and getting off at pointless suffering.
Disgusting.
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You couldn’t have known, server sizes where increased after launch from 5k to 15k.
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What consequences exist with a free character transfer off a pvp server to a pve server.
I’m dying to hear this…
they’re pvp to pvp only, that doesn’t exist.
You shouldn’t have had any expectations OTHER than a slaughter. That’s the entire point. Open world pvp, with a playerbase that’s had 15 years of ever increasing difficulty of pvp in various mmo’s. Stack that on with the enhanced ability to communicate and coordinate with others in modern social media…
If you expected anything else, you’re delusional. If you can’t handle what PvP is today, reroll a PVE toon or quit. Its binary.
Is it a mere coincidence that they released p2 early while dramatically increasing the number of players that can be logged into a server at the same time Shadowlands pre-order came out? They are sabotaging classic.
I swear people that say stuff like that never actually played vanilla. The amount of people on one server absolutely changes the game a lot. Whether someone likes it or not is an opinion.
The consequence is that for 2-3 weeks they have not been enjoying the game they paid for because they didn’t know that server sizes would be 3x bigger than actual classic (something that as someone stated previously, could not have been known). Bliz upped server capacity multiple times to accommodate for massive influxes of players. How can you fault someone on the basis that they rolled a PvP server with the only point of reference being vanilla WoW… The scale of Classic is so much larger that it’s not even the same experience.
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DO you read you incel? How can you prepare when they increased the populations by x3 a month after launch?
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Valak definitely didn’t play classic, sounds way too young. But let him tell you why you are wrong “snowflake” /s
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TLDR Version: People rolled on PvP server. People are now getting ganked, and whining about it. And the solution is to let them transfer off? HELL NO!
I rolled PvE because I KNEW what would happen on a PvP server. Let people re-roll their toons like I did 15 years ago! They made a choice. They can live with it.
Whiners gonna whine, haters gonna hate.
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you seem like an angry child lol
sure, delete your toon i’ll reroll mine lol
what difference does it make to let people transfer? reeeee consequences lol
but bookmarked, going to love reading your posts in a few weeks when everyone quits and you’re literally left alone with 2 hour bg queues and no alliance left to kill and crying
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– and classic WoW was created to be more player friendly than its predecessor. Where’s the threshold where it becomes intolerable?
We demanded classic, so current WoW obviously exceeded that.
All I’m saying is that there’s nothing wrong with consequence and the solution is very simple. In fact, a few days /played will have you good as new somewhere else. I don’t think that’s asking too much. If it is, they shouldn’t be playing to begin with.
I don’t care, but if they don’t have to learn their lessons, then I don’t either. That’s how we have BFA. Correction: That’s how we have the process that led to BFA.
Everybody wanted to see big crits, so we saw numbers sizing in the millions. Everybody wanted to feel like they’re progressing, so they increase the level cap and kept everything relative. In fact, they automated it. so that new zones just keep your level. Everybody loves gold, so now, earning a million gold is no big deal. Everybody hated losing in PvP, so now, the biggest difference between players is +/- 5% and twinks are gone.
The game has a defined structure. Some people flourish in a harsh environment. Some flounder. When you make people flounder less, the reward for flourishing is trivialized and accomplishments are less valid.
You’re asking for a small thing, sure, but what happens after fifteen years of small things? We already have that game. They can go there.
When we made the demand for classic, many of us knew exactly what we were asking. Some didn’t. Those who didn’t shouldn’t be here because they didn’t want classic.
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