Kind of overstating the value of healer dps. Its 5% of the total damage across the entire run.
To be clear, that was just a random guild I chose. Iâm not sure what the average contribution is.
5% of a 30+ minute timer is several minutes, and 5% overall can mean wildly different things depending on when the damage is done. I.E. if you shave two minutes off bosses or kill trash 20% faster, thatâs a huge contribution. See: Ashen Hallow in Season 1 or HPriest during S3/S4.
Also, usually itâs like 10-15% or so.
Last night I did a run as Holy and a run as Disc both i was trying to dps as much as I could but Holy pumped with decent damage where as Discâs damage was so poor while doing what should be more damage. Dont always worry about the healers damage sometimes their spec isnt scaled well and if you are still alive keep on truckin.
Lets assume for the sake of argument we are talking bout 15s for people who those are high. There really isnt constant damage flying out enough to result in no downtime from healing, which means healer should throw some dps out too.
If its a group who can barely time the 15, healer not dpsing will brick the key. In reality chances are due end of season + it being max vault there are higher tier players joining and carrying the dps so this is more of theory than reality till we get to bit higher keys where you wont get âfree carriesâ from better players as they get nothing outta it.
However I am not talking bout numbers, to me its more bout the intention. If you try to put some dps as a healer I am generally happy as this means you arent just sitting there semiafk when you got nothing to heal. Learning good habits on lower keys make doing higher keys easier in the future too.
Idk, its just mind boggling to me people would argue against dpsing during downtime. Is it required to complete a 15 for example? No but if you arent pulling your weight for whats expected from healer dps, the dps will have to carry your worths of the dps check.
Ps. Nobody is arguing to risk the party by going too ham with dpsing.
People. Easily the worst part of WoW lol call me bad or lazy but everyone is taking the game way too seriously lol play with friends to avoid these clowns
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Thats false. I remember healers dpsing in MoP.
The whole thing is that it seems a lot of healers dont want to dps. I am one of them. I want to focus on healing and only healing, hence me being a healer.
I dont want to juggle between dps and healing.
During downtime I like to relax, take stock of the situation and ready up when I need to spam heal. Some people dont do well with stress and having those little breaks help.
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I push keystone hero as a healer and if you want to push well, healers do dps as well. Obviously you arenât going to focus on dpsing while people are getting hit super hard. But if you have a toolkit for interrupts, dpsing and assisting your groupâŚyou do what you can to help. Even in mythic I see plenty of groups with one healer that focuses on dps and dropping their big cds when needed if things are on the brink for dps but the group still needs healing cds. Especially when you have downtime, why wouldnât you help dps to beat bosses faster?
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Look at it from another perspective. How much would you appreciate your mage pausing mid pull to lean back in his chair and âtake stockâ of how the pull is going to determine what targets he needs to swap to after his little break? If youâre not super enthusiastic about other people taking a bunch of breaks every pull, why do you feel you should get to take those breaks every pull? I get that competitive content can be stressful, but itâs the same for everyoneâŚif youâre not up for that kind of challenge, I canât recommend you do it.
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know what youâre right. I should also take a break and just wait for and asses the next pull. After all Iâm a tank and people should wait for me 
Yes, what did I say that was wrong ?
All 5 healers in S4 needed to do damage to even heal properly.
HPriests because of their tier set requiring the use of Holy Word: Chastise. Resto Druid because the meta was Necrolord with Adaptative Swarm, and the other 3 being Disc, HPal, Mistweaver that do damage to heal.
Thatâs the game. Thatâs how it works.
Oh yeah, the whole âI like to relaxâ mid encounter.
Ok, letâs all stop and relax then. The Fury warrior is a bit sore in the index finger after all.
I was just being sarcastic, healers have been doing DPS for a long, long time in dungeons.
If you donât want to deal damage in dungeons or raids thatâs fine, you just might not be a good fit for certain Mythic raiding and Mythic+ situations that are tuned for healers contributing DPS. Nothing wrong with not wanting to participate in that sort of content.
Which youâre not even going to use considering thereâs no dedicated CC or interrupter, because thatâs how Blizzard decided their roles: Everybody needs to CC and Interrupt on top of doing their own roles. 
I wasnât being sarcastic. Everybody have to CC and interrupt.
Iâl excuse the frivolous âIf it were actually thatâ condition argument, because this will just eventually fall under the âNo True Scotsmanâ fallacy anyways⌠Something that the pro healer dps are no stranger of sadly,âŚ
I will say that itâs stupid that Blizzard made Interupts talent choices when it should be baseline for everybody.
How? 
âŚLike how is it bad to have more interrupts?..
You seem to think me thinking everybody must be CCing/interupting is the same as Healer must be DPSing, when those two things are different, and for a reason. One is one of your primary roles. The latter isnât. If going by these pro-healerâs actual thoughts, itâs minor at mythic 0.
If i were in that group, i would start questioning the DPSâŚ
I remember that, it was pretty fun back being a niche thing. Now adays, i just find myself being more of a proper monk healer, considering i find it boring to DPS in dungeons. (i only do it to complete or get stuff) At least not in this version of WoW honestly.
I didnât say you were
In other words you canât actually directly address what I said and so youâre going to dilute it in a way thatâs easier to approach
Then why are most interrupts optional talents and why do some class specs not get one at all?
if you think interrupt is only an optional talent then youâre either a solo player, a lfr hero and an autoqueue andy. And any comments you can add to this discussion is irrelevant and misguided
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Several classesâ interrupts are talents, they do not get them by default. Having the ability to not spend the talent point on them means they are by definition optional
You want to talk about irrelevant and misguided try looking in a mirror
just because you they dont have it baseline doesnât mean they are optional. Again youâre either a solo player, a lfr hero or an autoqueue andy which make what you say irrelevant and misguided. How about let the player who actually do the content discuss it. Coz you know they actually play the content and dont sit around and wait to be carried 
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Thatâs literally the definition of optional. If it were mandatory it would not be a talent that can be skipped
Alright so why are you here then? You clearly donât play this game in the first place if you donât understand how talent trees work
learn to read between the line babe
sure thing karen
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Thereâs no âbetween the linesâ. It is a talent that you have to choose to put a point in, or not. Therefor it is optional
I donât think that means what you think it means