People be playing FFXIV too much, healers dont dps in WoW

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

@Nire-malganis

Hello, a few people seem to be looking for the correct answer so here we go.

Healers do not have to DPS while healing in raids or dungeons, but they should. Every little bit of DPS helps the group. Just like how DPS using defensives or CCing mobs help the healer and tank. If you feel like you don’t have the ability to heal and DPS, well then you got some cool stuff to work on. Healers in the top end expected to DPS in some of the most healing intensive content. You 100% can do it in the content you do too.

At the end of the day you can play the game anyway you want. But if you want to get better probably should DPS a bit as a healer.

I agree with all this.

Where i differ on this is healers keeping up with dps and being required to pump those kinda numbers. Thats all.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

No, You were trying to make the fact that healers ALWAYS have had to dps.

No, I said Healers have always DPS’ed.

You inserted the word “have to”.

You don’t “have to” do anything.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Aeyon-angerforge

Pro healers let people take damage within the realm of safety to the next upcoming ability.

I thought we had a bond over sarcasm and wit? Did this one strike a nerve?

[Adilith-barthilas]

That’s not my question. My question is and I repeat.

Do. You. Think. Doing. 20k. DPS. Won’t. Help. At. All. In. The. Long. Run.

[Aeyon-angerforge]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

I thought we had a bond over sarcasm and wit?

Nobody is interested in your obsession with me. Please focus on the thread, and do not seek to derail it over me.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

An audience of “self” is not a very fulfilling one.

[Aeyon-angerforge]

“Know Thyself”
-Socrates

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

I’ve been talking about what the OP stated, You are going off whatever you “think” the conversation is. When you have read the OP maybe we can have a understanding of view. Until then this is gonna go in circles.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

You are going off whatever you “think” the conversation is.

Just because you don’t want to or simply have not read the evolution of a topic doesn’t mean that evolution is absent.

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

Just because you don’t want to or simply have not read the evolution of a topic doesn’t mean that evolution is absent.

If you have kept up with what ive been saying im talking about the OPs opinion not whatever rabbit hole you guys keep going down.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

what ive been saying im talking about the OPs opinion

Then why do you keep responding to people having another discussion?

[Aeyon-angerforge]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

not whatever rabbit hole you guys keep going down.

snowpine and I love hiding in rabbit holes

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

@Raiimir-stormrage

Let’s put it this way : 5 healing specs in S4 required damage for a healer to even use their kit right.

You couldn’t be a good healer in S4 without doing damage.

A thing you’d know if you actually played the game.

Here buddy,
This isnt auto attacks this is required as you say.

[Raiimir-stormrage]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

If you have kept up with what ive been saying im talking about the OPs opinion

“If you kept up with me you would have noticed I’ve been standing still and am still stuck on post 1 in a 900+ post thread”.

[Byöb-faerlina]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

I agree with all this.

Where i differ on this is healers keeping up with dps and being required to pump those kinda numbers

That’s never been a thing in WoW and healers needing to “pump” DPS only comes into play when

1. Determining the healer meta for M+. What healer spec brings the most damage while still meeting healing checks?
2. Healers trying to maximize their DPS in organized groups doing world-first keys. These healers want to maximize their DPS.

In pretty much every other case, there is no expectation that healers pump, just that they do what they can during downtime.

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

Then why do you keep responding to people having another discussion?

You mean people responding to me? I mean feel free to start another thread about something other than what this conversation is about.

[Snowpine-ghostlands]

@Chrispyz-sargeras

I mean feel free to start another thread about something other than what this conversation is about.

Perhaps you should start a thread about this topic, too. Wouldn’t want to muddy OP’s point with discussions of how far a discussion should meander.

[Aeshesa-bleeding-hollow]

Lolwat? Are you high? DPSing has nothing to do with FF14 and has everything to do with being COMPETENT. It’s called min/maxing, you fool, and if you’re not doing that, you’re not pushing keys or Mythic prog with any relevance

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

@Byöb-faerlina

Determining the healer meta for M+. What healer spec brings the most damage while still meeting healing checks?

Yes This changed in legion when m+ came into the game. Im postive everyone this is thread is no where close to a world first level.

I being this back around to where I dont like the fact that healers and tanks doing the crazy amount of damage they do. (Per OP post) It is the way it is.

[Chrispyz-sargeras]

@Snowpine-ghostlands

Perhaps you should start a thread about this topic, too. Wouldn’t want to muddy OP’s point with discussions of how far a discussion should meander.

Make a thread about the same this OP made because…ahhh thats right staying on topic is hard for some. Got it.