People are defending 554

Translation: “You people weren’t playing the game, and we’ve made sure you reach the minimum ilvl to do heroics with ZERO dungeon experience so we can start threads mocking you for trying to do dungeons you don’t know.”

Your argument doesn’t hold water when you start saying “it’s a waste of time” or “jumping through hoops”

Because World quests are 10x more efficient time wise for their payout compared to dungeons.

In fact, you could run an entire dungeon and get 0 loot. Now THATS a waste of time.

The fact of the matter is, you simply don’t want to. Which is fine. You’re entitled to have that preference, but don’t disguise it as being “a waste of time”

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So you won’t be doing dungeons this expansion, because they’re a “waste of time”?

And yet people keep on asking for OPTIONS and yet this deviates from that mindset how ridiculous you people are.

Primarily because of the ilvl you get from the items available from WQs and not really because of the number of items available. Can go a whole week with only really seeing a few (often repeat) items.

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They have options. There are multiple routes from WQ/rep/crafted gear.

You’re just being lazy.

Why would players have zero dungeon experience? Imagine a world where players do the dungeons themselves for the experience and mechanics, and get loot elsewhere for heroics. Then, they step into heroics and know what’s going on because they got that experience in normals.

What an amazing and exciting world that would be.

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If someone alerts you that there’s a speed trap ahead, are they also defending and justifying the speed trap?

“Being lazy” when you people had the chance to get higher gear level with just the automatic system and yet now of the sudden you think you have the right to diminish those who just came on and play. Yeah that sounds more like someone that is selfish.

No.

However, had I enough experience with that person to know they’ve defended speed traps in the past, then maybe I’d assume they would if we further talked about it.

Yea the gatekeeping sucks but its warranted. You had many weeks to gear already. People want the reward without putting in the work. No participation trophies. Get the damn gear.

Lol you act like players got devs to change the landscape in some conspiratorial effort to put down others.

That’s some next level headcanon you got.

It’s always the same cycle.

People that already farmed something and got everything from it are happy.
Blizzard comes in with the “random anti fun bat” and starts smacking it for whatever reason preventing new people to join that farm.
People that already farmed everything gaslight others and tell them “just go back and farm as twice or more than I did before the bat hit or just go and do X or Y”

Hard to even bother reading what most of the retail players have to say defending changes like this…

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I didn’t gear through normals. I geared by grinding the rep for the three main set pieces then crafted 590 items.

Then I used heroics to fill the gaps.

And no I’m not selfish because I played the game.

You’re demanding the game cater to you because you didn’t play the game.

You also never answer my question about how you parsed 15.8 overall in LFR.

I just hope none of the people complaining about the ilvl changes were yelling amen in the “release mythic + now” threads

Then you have the completely clueless like yourself and OP that don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.

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15.8 parse where did you get that? Because I don’t know what that number even is and I don’t care what it even mean.

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There isn’t any gatekeeping. It’s an excuse to cope.

Man Ilvl can only save you from some stuff. Rest assured you can give hero gear to bad players and they will find a way to kill themselves.

Warcraft logs.

15.8 is the overall score of your performance in LFR.

Basically you played your warlock in the bottom 20% of all warlocks in LFR.